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****RESOLVED**** Hi all, this is my first post as thankfully any time I have got stuck someone has had the same problem before me. This problem is a strange one - I cannot explode a block, or edit it in any way. In the Properties tab there is no name for the block. If opened in block editor there is nothing there. Annoyingly, if you BE, there is a block there called MOD that is this block, but if you attempt to edit it, it actually has this no named block nested in it. Which you cannot explode or edit. I have attached the drawing, moved everything else to one side, and inserted the offending block at 0,0 Also, I must stress, I did not do this drawing, I am trying to use/fix it for our own purposes and I'm still new at all this Please can someone help with this? I'll have to redraw it otherwise, and I'm lazy Good luck with this, and thanks Karnak ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turns out that this block and only this block was not updating when edited, and screwing up. have to close/reopen the drawing (regen doing nowt) to get it to work.... Purging that block asap Plant Layout 9046-1.dwg