Cannot Bind Then Edit X-Refs

[gsksun4]

Ive tried to bind the x-refs, but to no avail. I can get them on the same screen, but cannot explode and trim, erase etc. I'll try to attach the 3 cad files. I'm using 2009LT.

Any help appreciated.

Thank you,

Glenn

USA

 

OK, now I can't attach the files. When I go to the attach clip arrow, the manage attachments window pops up, but I don't see the files that I uploaded.

Any thoughts? Bad day so far.

[Cad64]

OK, now I can't attach the files. When I go to the attach clip arrow, the manage attachments window pops up, but I don't see the files that I uploaded.

Any thoughts? Bad day so far.

 

How large are the files?

Have you exceeded the maximum allowable file size limit?

[gsksun4]

How large are the files?

Have you exceeded the maximum allowable file size limit?

 

573KB

1,130KB

270KB

 

 

I'm following the instructions someone here gave me several weeks ago. I have them printed out, but for some reason, when I go into attach it brings back up the "Management Attachments" window.

In there there's a bunch of different file types, but no specific dwg files. I've gone through the "Upload" procedure, but I can't find them when I try to attach.

[gsksun4]

How large are the files?

Have you exceeded the maximum allowable file size limit?

 

I see now that 2 out of the 3 are too large. You're right. There goes the fix. I'm sort of new to the bind x-ref's thing, but I even tried to detach and reinsert as a block and that didn't work.

 

I know you are in California and there's a time difference here in Florida, but I have to leave the job in 20 minutes and will have to pick this back up tomorrow. Hopefully there's an answer.

I do appreciate your help.

[Cad64]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what the problem is?

Are you having trouble inserting xrefs into your drawing or are you having trouble binding the xrefs that you have inserted?

 

How are you inserting the xrefs? Are you using the XREF command or the CLASSICXREF command?

 

BTW, when I responded initially, I thought you were trying to attach your drawing files here in the forum. I don't want you to think there is a file size limit for xrefs in your drawing.

[gsksun4]

I'm not sure I understand exactly what the problem is?

Are you having trouble inserting xrefs into your drawing or are you having trouble binding the xrefs that you have inserted?

 

How are you inserting the xrefs? Are you using the XREF command or the CLASSICXREF command?

 

BTW, when I responded initially, I thought you were trying to attach your drawing files here in the forum. I don't want you to think there is a file size limit for xrefs in your drawing.

 

 

I was trying to bind x-refs into a drawing. I fumble through this. I used classicxref and the xref command both. I tried the different ways because I'm not sure if you "attach", "reload" or what before you can bind. When the initial drawing come up, there's "unreconciled layers" also. Not sure what to do about that. But one thing at a time.

I finally got what I wanted on the screen, but the base xref cannot be edited. the other furniture xref is ok. I did a bind, but not sure if it actually worked. I checked the layers to make sure the layer that the base xref was on was not locked, or frozen. I tried everything in my bag of tricks, but I can't edit that part of the drawing.

 

OK, now I was going to attach the 3 files in my post on this thread. I understood what you meant and saw the base xref drawing is over 1 MB and cannot be attached here. This brings me back to square one. Sorry to be so long with this info.

Glenn

USA

 

BTW, not that this isn't already complicated enough, but the xrefs show not found or orphaned in the xref window. The saved path shows somebody elses computer folders, not mine. I have the xrefs now in the same folder as the initial drawing. But when I attach and bind, they don't show up in the drawing.

[Coosbaylumber]

Before you BIND an XREF drawing, you first need to do a bit of investigation.

 

Go to that named XREF drawing and make sure there are zero unused layers present. PURGE them first.

 

Then check to see that the XREF drawing does not contain other XREF'd drawings (a favorite thing here) or whole BLOCKS. Explode them, and then PURGE and proceed.

 

Then you can do back to the parent drawing and see if the XREF - BIND command will or will not work. Do not rely on the PURGE to clean up everything. Bring in the new XREF to be Bound in on Zero layer. Do not bring in of some other, or it can get those line types or attributes.

 

And in your investigation, made sure when you purge a drawing out, that you are actually looking at the real thing, and not some copy thereto off on some server. Can be near duplicates here.

 

Wm.

[gsksun4]

Before you BIND an XREF drawing, you first need to do a bit of investigation.

 

Go to that named XREF drawing and make sure there are zero unused layers present. PURGE them first.

 

Then check to see that the XREF drawing does not contain other XREF'd drawings (a favorite thing here) or whole BLOCKS. Explode them, and then PURGE and proceed.

 

Then you can do back to the parent drawing and see if the XREF - BIND command will or will not work. Do not rely on the PURGE to clean up everything. Bring in the new XREF to be Bound in on Zero layer. Do not bring in of some other, or it can get those line types or attributes.

 

And in your investigation, made sure when you purge a drawing out, that you are actually looking at the real thing, and not some copy thereto off on some server. Can be near duplicates here.

 

Wm.

 

Thank you. I'll give this a go.

[gsksun4]

Before you BIND an XREF drawing, you first need to do a bit of investigation.

 

Go to that named XREF drawing and make sure there are zero unused layers present. PURGE them first.

 

Then check to see that the XREF drawing does not contain other XREF'd drawings (a favorite thing here) or whole BLOCKS. Explode them, and then PURGE and proceed.

 

Then you can do back to the parent drawing and see if the XREF - BIND command will or will not work. Do not rely on the PURGE to clean up everything. Bring in the new XREF to be Bound in on Zero layer. Do not bring in of some other, or it can get those line types or attributes.

 

And in your investigation, made sure when you purge a drawing out, that you are actually looking at the real thing, and not some copy thereto off on some server. Can be near duplicates here.

 

Wm.

 

OK, did all the above and the xref comes in, but I cannot explode it to edit it. It's on layer "0" and layer "0" is not locked or frozen.

I'm starting to think this is a bad 3 files. It lists out as an external reference still, so maybe the bind isn't working.

What I did in the meantime was detach all the unfound xrefs and inserted them as blocks. It's not the way I planned, but I got the drawing to where I can edit it. By the way, the initial problem of inserting the xrefs as blocks in the mother file didn't work, so I just inserted the mother drawing into the xref drawing and that worked.

This would make anybody crazy, so I apologize for all the trouble here.

Glenn

USA

[Coosbaylumber]

Well, you cannot "Bind" an XREF without turning it in to a BLOCK. You cannot EXPLODE a XREF. You can only explode a BLOCK. Move the new block to which you want to edit upon off to one corner. Use 0,0 as base point, then 1000,1000 as the moved to location. Then EXPLODE it. Then WBLOCK it, and send into you directory.

 

Quit the drawing or close it out. Do not allow any changes to be saved.

 

Edit the new drawing there where you find it. Then move again from 0,0 to -1000, -1000 and then next time you open up the parent drawing do a PURGE and it will show your revisions.

 

Wm.

[gsksun4]

Well, you cannot "Bind" an XREF without turning it in to a BLOCK. You cannot EXPLODE a XREF. You can only explode a BLOCK. Move the new block to which you want to edit upon off to one corner. Use 0,0 as base point, then 1000,1000 as the moved to location. Then EXPLODE it. Then WBLOCK it, and send into you directory.

 

Quit the drawing or close it out. Do not allow any changes to be saved.

 

Edit the new drawing there where you find it. Then move again from 0,0 to -1000, -1000 and then next time you open up the parent drawing do a PURGE and it will show your revisions.

 

Wm.

 

Guess what. I did detach the xrefs and inserted them as blocks, but I did that on a copy of the drawing. I saved the original in it's original shape. I used your previous advice about working the xref drawings. I followed your instructions to a T and it worked. I had to play around a little with the attach and bind, but it did finally work. I did a replay on an extra set and everything went smooth. I don't have to move the xref to explode it either. Putting everything on layer 0 did the trick.

I learned great deal today, and I thank you very much for the support.

Glenn

USA

 

The only thing I had to be careful of was when I explode everything on the xref drawing, I have to do a remove on the room names and numbers. These are floorplans. And when you explode those blocks the attribute field shows up instead of the actual room name and number.

All is well, thanks.

[Cad64]

Your job would be a lot easier if you had the full version of Autocad.

Autocad LT just has too many limitations.

 

If you had the full version, you wouldn't have to Bind xrefs and then Explode the block. You would be able to simply edit the xref's in place with the REFEDIT command.

 

And instead of expolding blocks, you could use the BURST command which would explode the block and convert attributes to text instead of leaving you with the attribute field.

 

But at least you got it all sorted out. :wink:

[gsksun4]

Your job would be a lot easier if you had the full version of Autocad.

Autocad LT just has too many limitations.

 

If you had the full version, you wouldn't have to Bind xrefs and then Explode the block. You would be able to simply edit the xref's in place with the REFEDIT command.

 

And instead of expolding blocks, you could use the BURST command which would explode the block and convert attributes to text instead of leaving you with the attribute field.

 

But at least you got it all sorted out. :wink:

 

This is true, but they're tight. This info will also go into my cad bible as well, just in case.

Thank you as well and have a great day.

 

P.S. I hope you're nowhere near the fires out there. Stay well.