Die Designing Tutorial Wanted

[pinco pallino]

Hi there

I need a tutorial on die designing with odd parting line. The pic shows front and back of the thing I need to do

Is any one out there who can tell where I can get them?

Many thanks in advance.

[JD Mather]

Can you attach the part here? Do you have Inventor Tooling? If so, have you gone through the tutorials?

[shift1313]

are the 3 side faces planer or to they tilt in? its really hard to tell the geometry without having the model. I havent seen any tutorials out there besides what is built into each software package. For me I usually contact the tooling engineer with my ideas and see if they have any issues with my parting line placement and go from there.

[pinco pallino]

Tanks for showing up

I've used IV PRO 10 for the last 4 years and never come across tooling and in the help index has nothing of the like.

Basically what I need to do is the negative impression of this bracket, but I think I've found the way.

I derived the part as a body surface and extruded “To Next”

this little experiments looks promising.

Thank you all.

Regards

Ralf

engineering pattern-maker designer

[JD Mather]

... never come across tooling and in the help index has nothing of the like.

 

Inventor tooling did not come out until version 2010.

 

You might check the ice cube tray and toy car tutorials in my signature.

[shift1313]

Tanks for showing up

I've used IV PRO 10 for the last 4 years and never come across tooling and in the help index has nothing of the like.

Basically what I need to do is the negative impression of this bracket, but I think I've found the way.

I derived the part as a body surface and extruded “To Next”

this little experiments looks promising.

Thank you all.

Regards

Ralf

engineering pattern-maker designer

 

You can create an offset surface with zero offset of your solid. This surface can be saved as a new part file then used as an extrude To for this part of your mold.

 

How does this help you with the parting lines?

 

Pretty tall steps were made in the software after version 10 that you have, 2010 has a lot of functionality for part design that wasnt there in older versions.

[pinco pallino]

Thanks Shift. That would solve all the problems but the Thicken/Offset pop out did not accept the 0.

Is this the tool you mean?.

For the join line, I thought to make a saddle, sit the bracket in and derive the 2 together to get the first half mould.

The second half would be pretty much the same business

 

 

Thanks Mr. JD for the study track I only took a quick look at it and is excellent as all of your work. I'll look at it in detail as soon as I can.

Cheers Ralf

Engineering Pattern-Maker Designer

[shift1313]

Ralf, maybe version 10 did not allow this. When you open the thicken/offset window you have to make sure to select the surface button. I have inventor 11 of my work computer so i will try to play with it today and see if it works. v10 and 11 were pretty close

[shift1313]

zero offset works alright in inventor 11 as long as you select the surface button. I think the issue might be the surface/solid button.

[JD Mather]

...never come across tooling and in the help index has nothing of the like.

 

Inventor Tooling makes creating parting lines and molds or tooling mucn easier. It is intended for plastic injection molds, but there is no reason to limit to plastic molds or even molds in general as with a bit of clever use it can also be used for general tooling.

 

I should point out that the shut-offs (patching surfaces) and run-offs (parting lines) were created either automatically or semi-automatically. These would then be used to split the core/cavity sides (translucent Workpiece body).

[pinco pallino]

Well folks I think I've got it all under control.

The thick offset eventually excepted the 0 in surface mode but for some unknown reason I couldn't get the extrusion in the derived body, to terminate in both bracket & surface together, it was either on one or the other, (I tried both, surface created on the derived body and created on the ipt.) where as, by thickening the surface in the ipt, the extrusion in the derived part has flooded the body as wanted. See pic.

This bring a conclusion to this session.

 

 

Mr. JD, You make me envious with all those extra tools you can toy with, I wish I could afford it.

Last night I followed in detail the tut. You suggested, good stuff. I learned a few tricks on the ice try. The car model however was made with auto cad and couldn't do any thing with it.

 

 

If you want to see what this thing is for, search the web, type in 3D Bracket Wood Jointing System

New Inventors ABC

 

Thank You

Cheers to all

 

keep up with the good work.

Ralf.

 

Engineering Pattern-maker.Designer

[shift1313]

glad you got it all worked out ralf! Im not sure about the termination issue. You were using the From/To option and it was only allowing one or the other?

[pinco pallino]

No I used To Next termination end selected the derived ipt which included the surface Tick Off set to0 and... No Sir, it would select either the ipt or the surface. It wouldn't allow the selections of both together.

In this pic is 2 extrusions To Next termination. As you can see 1 is on the surface the other is on the ipt. But could not get one in between the 2

It got me puzzling all the night how I was going to solve this thing.

Then decided to thicken the surface as a solid belonging to the bracket and that did the trick. Mind you the bracket used for the experiment was a derived one, the original remained untouched.

Following your last note I tried to use From To termination and as a result it would select only 1 facet. At least that is what IV 10 dose.