Scaling and Text Size

[Kemphas]

Hello ALL!....

 

I scaled an object that had text in it.. well obviously the text doesnt scale which would be intuitive......

 

Anyways i highlight all the text and type...

 

textsize

 

Recieve Promp:

Enter new value for TEXTSIZE :

 

 

I have entered:

 

.2, 1.0, 1/2, 1/8, 1/4 NOTHING WORKS it does nothing...

 

Why does it not resize the text??

 

Why does highlighting 30 cells and changing text size in properties menu only change one of them?

 

 

HELP!

[Absntmind]

Hmm, text scales fine for me. I works with m/dtext, as well as attributes (has since R14). What kind of object/text?

[Kemphas]

im not trying to make a text box.... and new text.. im trying to take allot of existing text and resize it...

[Absntmind]

Yes, I understand (I think). I was talking about existing text, not creating new text. You should be able to select existing text and scale it. I do this daily without issue. This should scale right along with any objects selected at the same time. I'm curious how the text was created, it might help to know. You said text box, so I'm assuming it's MTEXT?

[Kemphas]

I converted a VSD (Visio File) to Auto CAD.

 

I change text size via properties and some of the text will resize and some of it wont.. it states 1/8" height and yet displays at 1"...

[Absntmind]

Have you tried matching the properties (matchprop) of the text that will scale to the text that won't? It will change the orientation as well though to match the source selection, if the text is at different angles, but it might fix your issue.

[Kemphas]

I dont know what matchprop does.. it doesnt do anything...

 

 

im really getting sick and tired of all these stupid commands in auto cad and screwing things up.. i had to make a new document because it defined text paper size as 1/8" but model size or something 16' and i couldnt change it back this program is stupid.

[Absntmind]

If you ran matchprop, then select the correct text first, and the "problem" text second, it should match the properties (layer, size, orientation, etc).

 

You can upload the drawing. This would make it easier to help you if people could see the problem hands on.

 

I can understand getting frustrated with learning new software...though taking that attitude won't really encourage people to help you.

[Kemphas]

match prop does not work.. if my text is vertical and my base text is horizontal all it does is rotate it, it does not change the text size.

 

im about to headbutt my computer screen this is not a difficult task in visio... but i have been forced due to infinate wisdom of superious to move to autocad 2010 lt.

 

the material is 'sensative' and cannot be released or i will loose my job.

 

the text states in the properties menue that it is .125 and yet displays in a form on the model as 1.0..... the property says its .125

[MikeScott]

Are these dimensions you're trying to resize? That would explain a lot. The program assumes that the dimension scale is in charge of scaling the dimensions. So whatever your dimstyles are set to, it tries to hold onto, not matter how you change the objects. That's because the actual item is changing in size, and not changing on your paperspace view.

 

Your paperspace view doesn't change, so it's not like "zooming out" in paperspace to make the now larger object fit on it. The dimensions don't change in relationship to paperspace unless you tell it to. (ie- a two-inch line becomes four inches if you rescale by two.. it doesn't get a bigger font, just a longer length)

 

That's kind of a basic point to AutoCAD.. you always draw everything to fullscale, and then use paperspace zoom to shrink or enlarge the items appearance on the paper.

 

You need to look at the dimensions style settings.. You might have better luck changing it in there. The thing about AutoCAD is that there are different ways of doing the same things, depending upon what the items actually are. If the dimension font size increased automatically in the scale command, it would totally screw-up your paperspace.

 

Your description of Vertical to horizontal reminds me of what dimensions do when you "matchprop".. so I'm thinking that's the culprit here.

[Kemphas]

I have not moved to finalizing the drawing and placing things in paperspace I am still in model space and having these difficulties.

 

I am right clicking on the object and going to the properties menu and changing the "Text Height" Variable and yet it does not change. Infact it will display in the variable for example a .125 but when emasuring it comes out as .5

 

Where is this Dimensions stuff your talking about?

 

I was looking and if your thinking they are Annotations, they are not. These should be text boxes as they are shall we say explanation of terminal blocks such as wire numbers voltage requirements so on and so forth.

[bobsy852]

Does it say anything after you try and change the text height? No pop-up dialog boxes etc? Are you trying to change the text height using the properties table? Or in the text style manger?

If you simply hover over the text do any small icons appear near your pointer cross-hairs?

The dimensions would simply measure between items in your drawing, they are purly measurmenets not annotations of your drawing.

[dbroada]

my guess is that the conversion from VISO created an MTEXT object with the text size defined in that object. Can you LIST one of your problem pieces of text and post the result. That will allow more informative answers rather than just guessing. I would expect to see something like (taken from another recent post)....

[color=#2e8b57]Command: list
1 found

MTEXT Layer: "Textnotes"
Space: Model space
Handle = 37bbe
Style = "notes20hand"
Annotative: No
Location: X= 566070 Y= -166774 Z= 0
Width: 800
Normal: X= 0 Y= 0 Z= 1
Rotation: 0
Text height: 40
Line spacing: Multiple (1.000000x = 67)
Attachment: TopLeft
Flow direction: ByStyle
Contents: [/color][color=red]{\W1;light and wide}[/color]

[CyberAngel]

Just a thought--could you have a table (or other composite object) that doesn't respond to text commands? You refer to a "cell" or "form" at one point. If you click on one piece of text and a group of things gets highlighted, that's a composite object. Check its Properties.

[MikeScott]

Ok.. if they're MTEXT you might need to open the text and change the values within the MTEXT box itself. (Highlight the text and then change the dimension). I have never seen mtext not rescale with the scale command, but if there are differing font sizes in the MTEXT maybe it would throw that off?

 

If they're dimensions, you need to edit their dimstyle sizes, (hit "D" and then hit enter (no quotes)), and then use the "update dimensions" command to see the change take place. As I said, these wouldn't resize using the scale command.

 

It may be that they're in the dimension format because Visio put them there.

[RobDraw]

Hello ALL!....

 

I scaled an object that had text in it.. well obviously the text doesnt scale which would be intuitive......

 

Anyways i highlight all the text and type...

 

textsize

 

Recieve Promp:

Enter new value for TEXTSIZE :

 

 

I have entered:

 

.2, 1.0, 1/2, 1/8, 1/4 NOTHING WORKS it does nothing...

 

Why does it not resize the text??

 

Why does highlighting 30 cells and changing text size in properties menu only change one of them?

 

 

HELP!

 

I'm trying to recreate the problem without any luck. Scaling and resizing both work even if there are different heights in the object.

 

First, "textsize" does not change the size of selected text. It's a system variable and I can't figure out what it does, exactly.

 

You mentioned that when you select 30 "cells" one or some of them will change when you assign the new hieght. What is different about the one(s) that change?

 

What happens if you explode these objects? Can you apply the appropriate height?