gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I've inserted my border which is a block into a cad drawing from a customer and I need to explode it to edit my text. When I explode the border, it disappears. The layer it's on is on and thawed and not locked. Anyone know why it disappears? I cannot attach the file because it's a 5 meg drawing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 What did you use as an insertion point? Did you have to scale up/down the block upon insertion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 What did you use as an insertion point? Did you have to scale up/down the block upon insertion? Boy, you're fast today. I didn't notice the insertion point when I did the insert. I inserted it at a scale of 105 to fit around the floor plan. I'm going to try and attach the file now. Please give me a minute. Oh,, using 2009LT. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 R14-FLOORPLAN.zip Here's the file ReMark. I hope anyway. Heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 That last attachment seems corrupt. Let me try again: Wont work, file is 1.95MB. Sorry. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Glenn: I'm going to PM you with some info. Go...now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Glenn: I'm going to PM you with some info. Go...now. ReMark, I did not receive your PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Sorry about. Seems my paltry mailbox was full. I resent it. Go check and see if I was successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 OK, I got it now and e-mailed you the drawing. Funny thing though, I inserted one of my voice/data drops (a triangle with an attribute) into the file and it exploded fine. Even though I don't have to explode them. This is very odd. I even w-blocked the drawing out as a different file name, opened up the new file and it did the same thing with the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 I just opened your drawing. Give me a few moments to poke around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 I just opened your drawing. Give me a few moments to poke around. Take your time. I'm here till 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBox Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Does the border line work, text, etc. show up if you thaw, and turn on *ALL* layers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Why not open the border in the Block Editor and change the text there? I believe I found the problem. It appears that when you explode the block, named "24x36", it wants to default to layer "0". Layer "0" is frozen in your drawing! Sometimes the simplest things are right before our eyes but we fail to notice them. Been there...done that...too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Does the border line work, text, etc. show up if you thaw, and turn on *ALL* layers? It seems ReMark has solved the problem. When exploded, the border goes to a frozen layer. Thanks for your input RenderMan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 RenderMan nailed it. I only confirmed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Why not open the border in the Block Editor and change the text there? I believe I found the problem. It appears that when you explode the block, named "24x36", it wants to default to layer "0". Layer "0" is frozen in your drawing! Sometimes the simplest things are right before our eyes but we fail to notice them. Been there...done that...too. I didn't think of using the block editor. Old dog, new trick. I've just been exploding that border for over 10 yerars. I wonder why it jumps to layer 0 ReMark. Any idea? I never had that happen before. I just thawed that layer and put your tip in my cad bible for future PITA files. So glad you're around to help us. If I ever win the lottery........................... Heh. Thanks so much, once again. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 RenderMan nailed it. I only confirmed it. Then thanks are in order for both of you. Have a great day and weekend. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBox Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thanks for the compliment, ReMark! You're welcome, Gsksun4. Often blocks are drawn on the zero ("0") layer, with ByLayer settings as appropriate. This precludes any issues with having line work on proposed or existing layers, and then the block is copied to a layer it shouldn't be on, etc. By placing the line work on the zero layer, whatever layer the block resides on, the block displays it's (the layer's) display properly (until exploded). For example: If you had a proposed block (comprised of proposed line work), and that block was placed (accidentally?) on an existing layer while the proposed layer is frozen... missing block, and a confused User. Make sense...? Personally, I prefer the ._refedit command (when applicable), but I never really attempt that with our borders (anymore), as we've updated them all to include attributed data, which typically updates with fields and SSM. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsksun4 Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 Thanks for the compliment, ReMark! You're welcome, Gsksun4. Often blocks are drawn on the zero ("0") layer, with ByLayer settings as appropriate. This precludes any issues with having line work on proposed or existing layers, and then the block is copied to a layer it shouldn't be on, etc. By placing the line work on the zero layer, whatever layer the block resides on, the block displays it's (the layer's) display properly (until exploded). For example: If you had a proposed block (comprised of proposed line work), and that block was placed (accidentally?) on an existing layer while the proposed layer is frozen... missing block, and a confused User. Make sense...? Personally, I prefer the ._refedit command (when applicable), but I never really attempt that with our borders (anymore), as we've updated them all to include attributed data, which typically updates with fields and SSM. Good luck! Thank you for that explanation RenderMan. Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBox Posted September 10, 2010 Share Posted September 10, 2010 Glad I could help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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