Surface Profile over several drawings

[bigmaz]

Hi Guys

 

I am going to be creating drawings that will have both Plan and Sections along a route. There are 5 drawings altogether following the route, with the plan at the top, and the section at the bottom. How do I split the section up into the several drawings with the labels (Existing Ground Level and Chainage) without having to explode the section and label it up on each drawing? Hope this makes sense.

 

Cheers

Martin

[Tiger]

Viewports and lots of them!

 

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Above is an example from the file I am working on at the moment. You see the cyan (they don't look real cyan here, but you see the drawing-numbers on top, that's three drawings there) squares - those correspond with the viewports in Layout. And the Blue lines are my pipes and the white is the ground.

 

When I xref this file into my Layout-files, I can use the cyan squares to zoom in on the part that I want to display in that drawing. The next Layout-file get the next cyan square and so on.

[bigmaz]

Thanks Tiger. So have you got the labels (Existing Ground Level, Countours etc) in the actual drawing then and in a seperate viewport from the main section?

[Tiger]

I have the lables on the Layout - I actually have it saved as a block for ease of use. That is....eh....lemme find a picture

[Tiger]

[ATTACH]24824[/ATTACH]The colors are a bit poor but what I have marked with a red rectangle (the big one) is the Viewport. The texts marked with a green rectangle to the left are what I think of when you say Label, is it correct? That is in the Layout anyway.

 

I see no reason to not have them in the Model Space and have a Viewport for the label though - but its just not the way I do it right now.

[bigmaz]

Yeah, thats brilliant, thanks. I was going to use the "Create Multiple Profile Views" Option, but this seems better. Looks like you know what your doing with Civils 3D. Its pretty daunting, so much to learn. I know a fair bit about AutoCAD, but its like starting all over again with this. I am struggling trying to customize how the sections look, with the labelling etc. I'll get there, lol

 

Thanks again

 

Martin

[BIGAL]

You may still want to use Multi profile views the main advantage is that you will get a legend on the left for each section, we use an add on but setting plot length or ch range should be there to control the length of each profile so it fits your sheet then use viewports if required. In metric A1 about 70cm.

 

The add on we use lets us create km's in one go it creates a new layout sheet with plan on top and long section below including labelling. Like Tigers.

 

Will have a look at civ3d way.

 

Hey type "multiple profile views" in HELP found some good stuff Exercise 5 to be more specific

Edited November 29, 2010 by BIGAL
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[Tiger]

... Looks like you know what your doing with Civils 3D. Its pretty daunting, so much to learn....

 

eh... I just use normal vanilla AutoCAD - no Civil 3D, so if there is some fancy pants stuff that makes this so much easier, I wouldn't know. If there is some fancy pants stuff I wish I had Civil 3D

[BIGAL]

Tiger I was involved in Civil software sales from 1985 for 15 years with a worldwide Australian product it blew away the users with what it did 25 years ago its drafting ability was limted then, but has been improved immensly now to complete plans but generally users export to Autocad, slowly autocad is catching up here in Aus we still shake our head at some of the stuff in CIV3d how bad it is any one yell "STYLES" Chainage labelling, cross sections, longs sections ?

 

The original Aus developer is now producing our 3rd party civil add on which we use now. He listens to the users and has a ph D in Civil Engineering.

 

Style pain v's old pick 1 button, pick contours on /off, points style 5 default buttons Points codes heights code number which can be assigned a user style so simple most jobs you want the same answer !!!!

 

Got to find time to complete a Contour and points display almost there. As they say watch this space theres a couple of us working on it.

[butzers09silverado]

I'd put the entire design in one drawing if possible, then xref that into a sheet drawing and xclip the drawing. You put all the labels in the sheet drawing. By xcliping you can really speed up the drafting time in each sheet drawing. So instead of having 1 drawing with 3 viewports, you have 3 drawings with 1 viewport. This allows you to limit the data per drawing. Now, if you can't keep all the data in one drawing (the section) then you need some more complicated solutions.

[sinc]

eh... I just use normal vanilla AutoCAD - no Civil 3D, so if there is some fancy pants stuff that makes this so much easier, I wouldn't know. If there is some fancy pants stuff I wish I had Civil 3D

 

Yep, there's fancy pants stuff...

 

It's a bit confusing, though. You have to create a template, as well as Styles that define your layouts, and the Styles for this stuff are kind of confusing. Once you get it all setup, though, it creates all your viewports automatically, with Plan above Profile, as many pages as needed, with auto-generated match lines and everything. And the cross sections all fly into pages. You still then have some cleanup work, but tons of your work gets done automatically.

 

Unfortunately, I haven't used this stuff much (I'm a Surveyor), and like I said, it's kind of confusing, so I'm not a lot of help in telling you how to set everything up... I've seen how to do it in some AU classes, and I've used the Plan Production functionality to auto-generate a bunch of plan sheets for a large survey we did (52 pages total to cover the site), but that's quite a bit simpler than P&P or cross-section sheets. Michael Farrel over at the Swamp has a pretty good handle on it, though. There are some "tricks and tips" with the Style and Template setup that are difficult to figure out on your own, and it's a lot easier to get some help from others. If you have access to AU, I also strongly recommend you look through the class offerings there... There's some good sessions on how to get this stuff singing.

[Organic]

Tiger I was involved in Civil software sales from 1985 for 15 years with a worldwide Australian product it blew away the users with what it did 25 years ago its drafting ability was limted then, but has been improved immensly now to complete plans but generally users export to Autocad, slowly autocad is catching up here in Aus we still shake our head at some of the stuff in CIV3d how bad it is any one yell "STYLES" Chainage labelling, cross sections, longs sections ?

 

 

Was that 12d?