VikingRaider Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Thanks for the leg-up on this one. Sometimes in the properties window, a dimension will have an unusual (to me) value: in "dim linear" the dimension property displays a negative value? What the HECK!!?? I dont care at all, but, my boss gives us hell when he sees things like this, especially THIS, which no one can explain why it occurs. If you can help, great,.... if not, stay cool and play hard! Quote
ReMark Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Can you post a drawing file where this anomaly is exhibited? Quote
SEANT Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 The help file has a pretty good explanation for that under the DIMLFAC system variable. Quote
VikingRaider Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 Hello ReM. I cannot post a drawing as it is a controlled document (US MIL). I could only send a screenshot of the properties box showing it,... or to reiterate that in the "dim linear scale" it shows "-1.000". -Never have seen this in my 17 years!! Thanks for trying! Quote
VikingRaider Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 I wish it mentioned why the negative value is attached,.... and how to avoid it: nothing of merit was presented in the help file (2009) Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 I could not reproduce your problem in 2010, so I went to another machine that has 2007 on it and could do it there. It has to do with dimensioning in paperspace. If you go to your layout tab and double click to get to model space, then change the zoom level to something random. go back to paperspace and put a dimension on an object and check it's dimscale linear value. I think you'll see its a minus something different than you got before. I don't think it's anything to worry about, just the nature of the beast. 2010 appears to done that differently. I couldn't get it to give a negative value there. Quote
ReMark Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Jack's post then prompts me to ask did you dimension in a model space or paper space? Quote
VikingRaider Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 I have dimensioned in PS,... only to bring many entities (as blocks) back down into MS: because we have people who cannot operate between MS/PS still! Does this sound suspicious!? Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 I have dimensioned in PS,... only to bring many entities (as blocks) back down into MS: because we have people who cannot operate between MS/PS still! Does this sound suspicious!? Suspicious, no. Sounds like a group of folks that know what they know, and are comfortable there and want to stay that way. Change is hard for most people, especially when you ask them to change the way they make a living. Most of my current customers are that way now. I have one that I have to save down to 2004 because they refuse to upgrade. They have some ancient proprietary software that does something for them (its a deep dark secret and they won't tell me what) that can't read a newer cad file than that. The last time that bit of software was upgraded was when they were finally forced to stop using DOS by thier parent corporation. Quote
ReMark Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Yes it does. The only objects in paper space should be your title block/border, notes, and maybe your dimensions if you don't like to use annotative scaling or work with multiple dimension styles in model space. Quote
SEANT Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 There are a couple of ways that DIMLFAC can be modified when it sets a scale value for a dimension. If DIMASSOC is set to 2, then any Paper Space dimension that is scaled according to an underlying viewport will have its property Dim Scale Linear set to a negative value. The negative value allows some backward compatibility to pre-AutoCAD 2002 files. There was no automatic PaperSpace association. There was a manual method, though, that could alter the DIMLFAC if the user set a scale other than 1.00, with the “Apply to layout dims only”. In the attached sample both dims are dimstyle TwoScale. If you need to avoid the “-1.000” listing, and only dimension in Modelspace anyway, set DIMASSOC = 1. Or, don’t bring dims from Paperspace to Modelspace. dimasoc.dwg Quote
VikingRaider Posted January 21, 2011 Author Posted January 21, 2011 Thats excellent dude!!!!**** No one has pointed this out CLEARLY,... nor SO WELL! Thanks for the information: wish I could thank you more! This definitely makes me a better informed user, and for the moment, happy. peace! ~R~ Quote
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