Xref showing Objects not in original

[believemoore]

I have a drawing (A) and xrefing drawing (B) into it. In drawing B all layers are ON and UNFROZEN, however when I xrefrence B into drawing A this white box appears with the xref. I have no clue on why this is happening because like I said in the xref drawing B there is no white box and everything is visible so where is the box coming from when it xrefrence3d into drawing?!

As you can see there is the drawing B with NO white box and there is drawing A with xref B WITH the white box. Awfully frustrating.

 

Thank you in advance for any help.

[Tiger]

If you highlight the rectangle it is for sure in the B-xref? its not a viewport?

 

If you do a Edit X-ref in place (right-click on the xref and select Edit in Place) does the box appear then? Can you highlight it then?

[SLW210]

Are you sure ALL layers are ON and THAWED? Looks like someone drew a viewport or rectangle and placed it on DEFPOINTS. Have you clipped the XREF?

 

Select the rectangle and then select properties. Find out what it is, what layer etc.

[believemoore]

Tiger you are all over my posts . ALL layers are on and thawed. These screen shots were taken in Model space and they aren't viewports. The problem with an Edit X-ref in place is that that my drawing is actually a series of X-refs [A xrefs B, B xrefs C, D, and E (make sense?)] and you can only Edit X-ref in place once. HOWEVER when I do the the Edit X-ref in place the white boxes aren't visible!

[Tiger]

so the rectangle could be from the C-ref?

 

I have the same thing with my files, sometimes its a killer to find where things are in the nesting tree. The command XLIST can help, it shows some properties of a nested object, but only one step down.

 

Its an hour before good-bye-time for me so not much focus on my real job right now :wink:

[believemoore]

Welp it seems that when I go into my xref and explode a single wall (out of hundreds of walls) that it causes the box to disappear. I even went into the block editor of that particular wall and there was still no box to be seen! So I don't know... AutoCAD just wanted to have some fun and screw with my whole morning I guess. Wish I knew WHY something like this would happen. The architects that sent us these backgrounds seemed to have been messing around with the 0 and defpoints layer in each of the drawings they sent (changing the capitalization, one dwg its Defpoints, then another dwg its DefPoints, and another is defPoints)sooooooooo maybe when I take 3 dwgs with different capitalization of the word Defpoints and x-ref them into a single drawing CAD can't handle it.... Who knows, but it seems pretty weird of the architects to be doing this anyways. Oh well a fix is a fix until they update the backgrounds again

[Tiger]

While AutoCAD is not above messing with your head (don't forget the tinfoil!) most often there is a reason behind stuff, sometimes its too much hassle to find the source though, like in this case perhaps.

 

Something I would suspect is when you say that the drawings come from another source, do you know what program the architects use? It could be that these objects are 'smart' objects with info in them that MEP doesn't like and therefor only shows sometimes. Kinda far-fetched explaination, but it has happened. And stuff on layer Defpoints and layer 0 is rarely a good idea and can mess with x-reffing too..

 

Lets cross our fingers that the architects don't update the backgrounds again