MisterJingles Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Hi all I recently installed my ACAD LT 2012 update but have been having a problem since. If I highlight an object and COPY, then right click elsewhere to PASTE it doesn't allow me to do so, the options are not available to me in the drop down menu. If I leave the grips on the object I just copied then it does allow me to PASTE but surely this isn't normal with 2012 now because if I use CTRL+C and CTRL+V it works fine. Is anyone else having this problem? Regards Rob Quote
Tiger Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 I think you are confusing the Copy-autocad-command (which is COPY, also Copy in the right-click-menu) and the Copy-windows-command (which is Ctrl+C) Copy-ACAD-edition works as you specify, you select objects, start Copy, select basepoint and a insertion point. No need for a Paste-command. Ctrl+C works with copying out to Clipboard and then pasteing from Clipboard. I recommend to use Copy-ACAD-edition when you need to do it inside one drawing. Quote
BlackBox Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 I agree with Tiger. I'd add that if/when copying over great distances (in Model Space?), that you also consider Copy by Basepoint (it's in the right click menu). Quote
MisterJingles Posted May 25, 2011 Author Posted May 25, 2011 Thanks, I understand what you guys are saying. The way I usually copy and paste is to highlight the object - right click - copy with basepoint, then when I go to paste I again use the right click menu but the options are grayed out. This is more of a problem when I would like to paste as block or paste to original co-ords. I know I could work around it by not removing the grips before pasting but it just bugs me that its not right. Quote
Tiger Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 I don't really understand what you mean with 'not removing the grips'? I have interpreted that you are in the COPY-command then? I use Ctrl+Shift+C for Copy (and Ctrl+Shift+V for Paste as a block wiih basepoint) With Basepoint if I need to. Quote
MisterJingles Posted May 25, 2011 Author Posted May 25, 2011 If you copy the way I do (I will change that and do it as you do in future), I click the object, then in the right click menu I select COPY. So now its grips are activated. I usually, as a matter of habit, push ESC now to remove the grips. Now my point is that the ability to PASTE that object depends entirely on whether or not the object grips are showing or not. I'm sorry if I'm not being clear Quote
Tiger Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Ok, I did some digging in the CUI and if I am looking at the right things, the command that I called Copy-Windows-command (ctrl+C) is the same as COPYBASE with the correspondent PASTEBLOCK to insert it again. So in theory, you can go into the CUI, find the right click menu (I found it as Grips, Copy in the list) and change so that that doesn't start the COPY command, but the COPYBASE command. And then Add the PASTEBLOCK to the right-click menu. Quote
MisterJingles Posted May 25, 2011 Author Posted May 25, 2011 Will that not PASTE AS BLOCK each time I paste? Quote
Tiger Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 It would yes, the other paste is PASTECLIP. You could add both Quote
Dana W Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 If you copy the way I do (I will change that and do it as you do in future), I click the object, then in the right click menu I select COPY. So now its grips are activated. I usually, as a matter of habit, push ESC now to remove the grips. Now my point is that the ability to PASTE that object depends entirely on whether or not the object grips are showing or not. I'm sorry if I'm not being clear Just stop hitting the esc key. I just tested mine to be sure. When I did it and hit the esc, COPY ended. When I did not hit esc it worked just as you want it to. When you can't see the grips, the object is not 'Selected'. Of course, ending a command de-selects objects. Quote
MisterJingles Posted May 25, 2011 Author Posted May 25, 2011 Understood Dana. My point though was that before I updated it wasn't the case, Ive always done it that way. Suddenly it feels my world is closing in because I can't push ESC anymore. Surely it... ok suddenly its working I am able to ESC without exiting the COPY command as Ive always done in the past Perhaps Autocad picked up my distress and decided to do something about it. Anyway, I think my methods of activating commands are not the most efficient, Ill take a good look at all the available methods of accomplishing my commonly used commands and see which method will work best for me. Thanks all, gotta go fetch my daughter from school. Quote
BlackBox Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Perhaps Autocad picked up my distress and decided to do something about it. "My sensors have detected your distress signal... I'm on my way, [MisterJingles]." Quote
Dana W Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Perhaps Autocad picked up my distress and decided to do something about it. :shock: Yikes, don't scare me like that.:wink: Actually, the ESC should always cancel a command. I can't even find any way to change that behavior. What do you do when you want to cancel an active command, then? Maybe you've had a goober (Sesame seed, stink bug, hair ball...) stuck under your Esc key all this time and this morning it temporarily shifted outa the way. Quote
rkent Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 I have the same problem here with AutoCAD Mech 2012. The right click menu on the mouse will not allow me to paste, but I can use Ctrl+V to paste and it works fine. I am going to submit a service ticket in subscription, they are probably aware already but it doesn't hurt to submit. Quote
nukecad Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 There used to be a problem with drawings CREATED with some versions of Autocad 2007 where copyclip or copybase would not actually put anything onto the clipboard regardless of which version YOU were using them in. In these cases you could not then use paste as there was nothing in the clipboard to paste. Autodesk issued a Hotfix for this but it had to be applied to the faulty 2007 installation. When we got one of these problem drawings from a contractor we used to open it in DWGTrueview and resave it, that fixed the drawing for future use. Im wondering if this error has resurfaced? Quote
daft vader Posted May 29, 2011 Posted May 29, 2011 Isnt hitting escape basically saying cancel anyways ? Oh sorry Dana thats what you said, I was only reading the first page Quote
MisterJingles Posted May 30, 2011 Author Posted May 30, 2011 Dana - When I hit ESC after COPYing it doesn't cancel what is on the clipboard. The object I just copied is still there to be pasted. You are correct, the COPY command has ended but when I hit PASTE that object is there obviously. Quote
Dana W Posted May 30, 2011 Posted May 30, 2011 Dana - When I hit ESC after COPYing it doesn't cancel what is on the clipboard. The object I just copied is still there to be pasted. You are correct, the COPY command has ended but when I hit PASTE that object is there obviously. That's the way it's suposed to work. Have you activated or deactivated time sensetive right-click? Is pickfirst set to 1? if time sensitive right-click is on, what are the short and long clicks supposed to do? These all affect how Select, Esc, and Right-click work together. There is a lot going on with these options that could confuse things. I am not sure what could be causing your program's behavior. I guess I can't get my head around it because I am used to that being the wrong time to hit esc. Quote
MisterJingles Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 I haven't a clue what PICKFIRST and TIME SENSITIVE RIGHT CLICK are. I haven't done much AC customizing in the past, I haven't felt the need. Perhaps I'm laboring along in the way I use the program when there may be an easier way, I guess over time Ill work these things out. Quote
nestly Posted May 31, 2011 Posted May 31, 2011 I also normally deselect objects copied to the clipboard before pasting them so I don't have off-screen objects selected that I might accidentally modify/move/delete, and I can confirm that sometimes deselecting the objects disables the right-click paste options, and sometimes it does not. Having said that, I rarely use the clipboard for copying objects within a single drawing, but I do frequently use it for copying objects between drawings. As stated previously, the work-a-round seems to be to leave the objects selected until the paste operation is completed, but that doesn't explain the inconsistent behavior. My initial observation is that it may be related to how much memory AutoCAD is using, and I would pretty much rule out PICKFIRST or Time-sensitive right-click as I haven't changed either of those variable in quite some time. Quote
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