Block malfunction(s) / geometry detaching from grips

[ARainey]

Also posted in Bugs...

 

Strange problem here in AutoCAD 2009:

 

• Inserting a block mainly made up of attributes (some text, no geometry)
  
  
• picking a point on screen (free point: no snap, no coordinate entry)
  
  
• attdia is set to 0
  
  
• when entering through default values at the command line the block on screen seems to be offset from my pick point (offset seems to be relative to 0,0 also)
  
  
• if I go all the way through the block, no problems except it is kind of annoying to have the block not show up in the right place while going through the atts the first time
  
  
• bigger problem is if I escape during the att editing and then draw any geometry that same offset referred to earlier is apparent when drawing and my grips are now detached from my geometry!!!!
  
  
• a regen will fix the new geometry and line it back up with the grips but it shifts any existing geometry too!!!
  
  

Pretty hard to explain actually, Been looking for a solution for a couple days now, best I can tell it is some kind of coordinate problem with my blocks? UCS, ECS? Sysvar? I've run an audit on my template and the block with no errors, tried making a fresh block with same characteristics, same problem.

 

Help please!

 

Thank you!

[qball]

screenshot?

[ARainey]

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BlockInsert - Shows the block and the pick point (where my xhair is)

 

LinesAfterEsc - Shows how lines (or any geom) comes in after ESC from the block

 

Grips - Those are the grips for those lines

[SLW210]

You need to attach the file.

[Patrick Hughes]

Open the drawing you are inserting, turn on the UCS icon, set the UCS to world, examine the objects from an isometric view angle, look at the INSBASE variable (it should be 0,0,0).

 

My best guess is the geometry is skewed in 3d.

 

Tip: leave your UCS icon on. I never understand how drafters don't do that.

[ARainey]

Here is a copy from the dwt this profile uses and a copy of the block used in the screenshots

 

@patrick - thanks for the input, i had checked insbase before because i thought that might be the problem and it was ok... Btw, totally agree with your ucs comment, these users are probably what i would consider "below beginner" the icon confuses them so we took it off at thier request... Dont ask lol

 

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