Jack_O'neill Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 Ok guys...I apparently woke up stupid this morning. Well, stupider than normal. I have a requirement sheet from the city for plans for a little strip mall that I'm drawing a renovation for one unit. Had to reproduce the entire site however for the city planner. No problem, doing that, but here's where it gets kinky. They want the plans submitted on 11 x 17, but scaled at 1"=10'. The site is 656' ±, so at that scale, ain't no way it's gonna fit on an 11 x 17 sheet, right? If one inch = ten feet, on a 17" page, the biggest anything could possibly be is 170 feet, right? Is there something about this I'm not seeing? Quote
nestly Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 Why ask questions, just use 11x17 sheets and some Scotch tape. lol Yeah, it's not you that woke up stupid... Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted June 1, 2011 Author Posted June 1, 2011 oK...thanks. I know city government folks live in a whole different world than the rest of us. With what they have to deal with most of the time, you can't blame them. But math is the same in either world as far as I knew. I don't understand why they needed a whole site plan for renovating one 24 x 55 shop in an existing building anyway. All they are doing is putting up some partitions and cabinets. I got roped into doing this originally as a "would you redraw this site plan for me" thing, now its the floor plan for the new shop and an elevation of the front of the thing. I don't care to do it, money is money, but I hate dealing with these silly requirements. These days, you takes what you can gets, though. Quote
CyberAngel Posted June 1, 2011 Posted June 1, 2011 One county we work in has a requirement for D size plans (that's 24x36 inches for non-English types). We usually draw plans on E size sheets (30x42), but when we have to submit to that county, we need a separate set at a different scale. The punch line is why. They put the plans in flat file cabinets, and the drawers are 36 inches across. They won't buy new, wider, cabinets. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted June 1, 2011 Author Posted June 1, 2011 One county we work in has a requirement for D size plans (that's 24x36 inches for non-English types). We usually draw plans on E size sheets (30x42), but when we have to submit to that county, we need a separate set at a different scale. The punch line is why. They put the plans in flat file cabinets, and the drawers are 36 inches across. They won't buy new, wider, cabinets. This one wants 11 x 17, folded to 8 1/2 x 14 or less. Hey city planner, ever hear of digital storage media? And I'm not talking about your music machine that uses vinyl discs spinning at 78 rpm either! Oh well. To fit this project on a sheet at 1"=10', the custom page I created for a pdf is 5' x 8'. I'm going to bring it back down to a real size with an appropriate scale, but this is what the customer asked for. Quote
Dana W Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 This one wants 11 x 17' date=' [i']folded to 8 1/2 x 14 or less.[/i] Hey city planner, ever hear of digital storage media? And I'm not talking about your music machine that uses vinyl discs spinning at 78 rpm either! Oh well. To fit this project on a sheet at 1"=10', the custom page I created for a pdf is 5' x 8'. I'm going to bring it back down to a real size with an appropriate scale, but this is what the customer asked for. You could plot at their scale after lathering the drawing all up with match lines. Give 'em a stack of pages. They used to have digital storage down in DC here, but they closed the medical museum. I think they then moved all the jars full of fingers and things to Warehouse 13. Thay say they had John Dilinger's 'Digit" in there too. All kidding aside, my father-in-law the surveyor and I have lobbied our County graft... er ah Executive to get on the program with computer storage for years. I may as well ask my dog to stop shedding. They both look at you, smile, and shake hands. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 I got it to fit on a 22 x 34 scaled at 1"=25'. I gave them an 11 x 17 marked "NTS on any size sheet", then the one I just mentioned marked with the scale and "if plotted on 22 x 34 sheet" and the 60 x 96 (any y'all got a 5 foot wide plotter?) to accomodate the 1"=10' they said they wanted. Piece of paper bigger than a sheet of plywood. Morons. Quote
ReMark Posted June 2, 2011 Posted June 2, 2011 A site plan at 1"=10'? They must be blind to require a drawing with that scale. Our local building department's requirement is 1"=40' for most site plans unless the site is huge in which case 1"=100' is acceptable. I worked for a municipal engineering department for eight years so I know they can be a bit inflexible at times. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 A site plan at 1"=10'? They must be blind to require a drawing with that scale. Our local building department's requirement is 1"=40' for most site plans unless the site is huge in which case 1"=100' is acceptable. I worked for a municipal engineering department for eight years so I know they can be a bit inflexible at times. They want elevations and floor plans at 1"=1' !! You couldn't put a good sized bathroom on 11 x 17 at that. I've sent the contractor an email explaining all this. He's the one that sent me the requirement sheet. I'm thinking that this is surely a mistake. They may have left a zero off the end of each line. That would make a lot more sense. Quote
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