Annotative Room Tags

[Marc5]

I am confussed. I have completed 4 projects with Arch 10 and this is the first project with this problem. I use Space Generate to create spaces, tag the room with Room Tag, put the room tag where I want it, close the floor plan and when I open the plan back up some of the room tags have moved to a new location. This has happened 3 times now with the same floor plan. Out of the 39 rooms 22 room names have moved their location. Please see attached partial plan.

 

Why?

 

Thanks,

Marc

CFHPC PARTIAL FLOOR PLAN.DWG

[irneb]

I'm not sure why the Exam & Storage rooms moved out. But from my experience with annotative-anything ... try to keep the attached scales to a bare minimum, preferably only one while you're drawing the linework. Only once you're ready to place it on a new sheet with a different scale should you even consider adding extra scales.

 

That said, when there's 2 or more scales attached to a block - that block should NEVER be mirrored ... EVER! Otherwise you'll get various versions of it in several different places, randomly. IMO this is an OLD bug in ACad (even prior to Anno), but then who am I? Though I'm not sure if it's an issue with ACA's AEC_MVBLOCKs, not enough experience on those.

 

To explain why I say it's an OLD bug: A block may be set to have uniform scale. But when mirrored the X / Y scale factors gets inverted (negative). Thus the block isn't uniformly scaled anymore. This causes problems even with Data Extraction - which simply ignores these blocks. But gets worse with annotative scaling.

[Marc5]

Thanks.

I do see that there are 5 scales attached to the room tags. I did not do all scales on purpose - that I remember. I do have the overall floor plan (in 4 tabs) at 3/16" and then I have enlarged plans (in 1 tab) at 1/2". What is the best way or settings I should be using to keep the scales to the one current? I have, at times selected text, select similar and deleted all scales except for the current one being used in the drawing. Under Annotative Scale does it tie into "Annotative Visibility" or to "Automatically Add Scales to Annotative Objects When The Annotative Scale Changes"? At the moment both are active.

[irneb]

The "Automatically Add Scales..." (or AnnoAutoScale) is a very dangerous thing. It attaches all the scales used in any viewport in the drawing to all annotative objects. I generally turn this one off all the time, very rarely would I consider turning it on.

 

If off, then when you create an annotative object, it only takes the current scale ... wherever you draw it from (e.g. on the Model tab, through a viewport or on Paper space). You'll have to add other scales manually as and when you need them.

 

The AnnoAllVisible doesn't affect which scales get attached to objects - it affects when objects are displayed. Generally I have this turned on in the Model tab, but off on each PS tab. What it does (when turned on) is check if an object does not have the current scale attached, if so it displays the version for 1st scale attached to that object. With it turned off it will simply not display annotative objects which doesn't have the current scale attached - i.e. how you want it to happen on your sheets.

[Marc5]

Cool.....Thanks. I will set Annotative as you explained.

 

Have a good day.

 

Marc