hidden lines in layouts

[Jack_O'neill]

Ok folks...maybe I was dreaming. Maybe I've gone round the bend. I seem to remember somewhere a check box that would show hidden lines in paperspace viewports. For instance, a through hole, or a cavity in something.

 

Been a while since I've done much besides architectural drawing, so maybe I'm hallucinating.

 

I also distinctly remember the monochrome plot style always printing in black and white, even in a PDF. Today, the objects in modelspace are in color, and anything in paper space is black and white.

 

What is up with that? I must be missing something obvious, because I've screwed around with this for an hour and can't figure out what I've done to cause this.

[Jack_O'neill]

Found the hidden lines thing. Wasn't where I remembered it being. You can turn them on in the visual styles manager. I seem to remember that being a check box on the page setup, but it may have been a very long time ago.

 

Still don't know why its printing colors while using the monochrome plot style though. Weirdness afoot.

[ReMark]

Maybe you used a Truecolor?

[SLW210]

I think you you have gone around the bend and hit the throttle.

[Jack_O'neill]

Maybe you used a Truecolor?

 

Actually, I found the answer about an hour ago. If you go into the visual style manager and pick on the visual style you're using (in my case, 3D Hidden), then scroll down to "edge settings" you can set the color there. Make it anything you want regardless of the plot style settings. You can pick "by entity" or any color you want.

 

I think you you have gone around the bend and hit the throttle.

I think you're right! Sometimes I think "Wreck of the Old 97" was written about my life.

[rkent]

Taken from another newsgroup,

 

zachary.travis Sep 17, 2008 Autodesk NG

"The reason that applying a visual style overrides your plot style table comes down to two settings within the visual style; 'Edge Mode' and 'Face Style' (VSEDGES and VSFACESTYLE variables, respectively).

 

The key to getting a plot style table's color settings to apply when you plot, is to be sure that within your visual style settings, the 'Edge Mode' is set to "Isolines" and the 'Face Style' is set to "None". If either or both of these things is not the case, then the plot style table's color settings will not be applied when you plot.

 

The other option would be to use a 3D visual style that has "real" faces, with the 'Face color mode' set to "Monochrome". This will make your 3D objects come out in black and white (or greyscale). The only drawback is that if you had any colored linework (non-3D entities) within that viewport, it would still come out in color, though."

[Jack_O'neill]

Thanks rkent! That helps.

 

I am working on a little mechanical drawing for a local inventor. He wanted it in 3d so I modeled it all and since nearly every piece is more or less rectangular or round with some holes and notches, I just made some viewports and slapped on the dimensions in paper space. When I printed it, all the dims and titleblock were black, all the model elements were in color! Wouldn't be a problem except I draw on a black background, and the colors I picked to show up against the black, don't necessarily show up well on white paper.

 

Been living in the 2d world too much. Even if I model a curtainwall elevation, it gets converted to 2d before it goes to the customer so I'm a little rusty on the finer points of some of this fancy stuff.

[SLW210]

I would have used _SOLVIEW, _SOLDRAW and _SOLPROF to generate the views.

[Jack_O'neill]

I would have used _SOLVIEW, _SOLDRAW and _SOLPROF to generate the views.

 

I probably should have done it that way. A lot of this stuff is going to change anyway. This is a prototype and I have the feeling that it will go through a lot of evolution before the final product is ready. It's all pretty simple, round shapes and square shapes, nothing complicated.

[SLW210]

Your changes will update.

[Jack_O'neill]

Your changes will update.

 

 

Yeah, but I mean the "throw it away and start all over" kind of changes. This thing will eventually be injection molded, but right now it's pieced together as if you were making it from plywood.

 

Did it this way for ease of access to the moving components, after that there are are many of the pieces that will become one piece. The actual product won't even resemble what we've got now.

[SLW210]

You probably need a modern program like Inventor or Solidworks to do this.

[Jack_O'neill]

You probably need a modern program like Inventor or Solidworks to do this.

 

No doubt. If all else fails, I still have a T-square, some triangles, a compass and some pencils round here. I KNOW it can get drawn that way!