panning within the viewport

[Yagoona]

Is it possible to pan within the viewport.

I find that I am constatnly trying to chase the right part of the drawing for the viewport using the viewport resize handles. Worst is if I scale in and loose the part of the drawing I wanted to show and have to use the handles again to make the viewport really large to find the spot that way.

I have worked out the scaling but the panning within the viewport would be really usefull.

Can anyone help out please?

[CyberAngel]

Just a guess. You've locked the viewport (which is always a good idea). Panning is not possible inside a locked viewport, so you will have to unlock the viewport, pan to the desired location (without changing the scale), and lock the viewport again. If you do change the scale, you can always undo the last couple of actions and try again.

[Dana W]

If the viewport is not locked, simply double click anywhere inside it, pan and zoom just like in modelspace. When you are done positioning your view, simply double click anywhere outside the viewport to go back to paperspace, reset your correct viewport scale, then lock the viewport.

[Yagoona]

Thanks Dana W

I tried this and I simply get the whold layout panning.

I discovered what it is to lock a viewport now and this has changed the behaviour when double clicking on the viewport. I am used to the model space opening up and taking up the screen. Panning here makes no diff to the viewport when I go back to the layout view.

Could it be that I am trying to do things outside the 'acad way'?

[Dana W]

I suggest you post the drawing here, (or another simple one) that you have this problem with, so we can see what you are dealing with.

If you are panning the whole layout after double clicking inside the viewport, then your viewport is still locked. Locking a viewport is designed to prevent you or someone else from changing the scale relationship by accident.

It sounds like your viewport is zooming to extents when you do manage to get into it. This is not helping you visualize the viewport relationship to the layout if you can't see the layout surrounding it at the same time.

[Yagoona]

Here is the drawing.

What I am doing:

 

1. open the drawing
   
2. go to layout
   
3. double click on the viewport frame (it is a non printing layer called vport and is blue)
   
4. then autocad pops into a virtual modeling window.
   
5. then I doubleclick on the white frame of this window to go back.
   
6. no panning possible.
   

Darri hocker Corian top v1.dwg

[SLW210]

I PAN just fine in the viewport. Double-clicking the VP border Maximizes the viewport, you can PAN all you want locked or unlocked when you minimize it will still be the same.

 

Just unlock and double-click inside the viewport.

[Yagoona]

Yes, I know, but this makes no difference to the viewport when I go back, additionally it would be pointless to be panning around in a window that is not the layout window since the pan operation is part of the formating of the layout.

I feared that what I am trying to do is a little hard to explain. I gave it a go in the first post of this thread but seems that this is still not clear.

 

What I find illogical in formating my layout is that when I create a new viewport and lets say I want to have a detail at 1:1 and change the scale, it is quite posible that the viewport seems empty all of a sudden. I know that I am just zoomed in to a blank spot but now how do I pan inside the viewport to find the exact spot I want to show?

The only way I can see is to grab the viewport handles and open out the viewport till I see the area of the drawing I want to have in it and then close in the opposite corner of the viewport, then move the entire viewport to the desired location.

This works but is somewhat clumsy. Can I not pan in side the viewport to get the desired part of the drawing in the viewport quickly?

 

I have attached an example simple drawing. In layout1 I have 2 viewports, the left shows the part as a whole, the right on is a copy of the left one but the scale is set to 1:1.

What is the quickest way to get the drawing in right position in the viewport.

I know this is a cumbersome explaination, but I realy what to find out if there is a way to do this that is not the clumsy method I have been living with so far.

ash shovel 01.dwg

[rkent]

In your example, make the right viewport current, now do a zoom extents, now set your desired scale, lock the viewport.

 

If you had a lot more objects then after the zoom extents you would zoom in on the area you want, get it centered by eye, finally set the scale, then lock the viewport.

[Yagoona]

Hi and thanks for your response.

I have the feeling you are assuming too much acad knowledge in me.

That asside, the 'get it centered by eye' bit - that is the essence of what I have looking for. As far as I can tell it is the tale waging the dog operation - zoom in a bit then adjust the viewport border to center that part of the drawing, zoom in again, etc...

Additionally, seems that the zooming is not centered on the center of the viewport when you are already zoomed in partially.

 

Also what do you mean by make the viewport current?

 

Sorry for my complete lack of knowledge - seems I know less that the minimum to learn how this simple function works. Are there no tutorials about this about. My search has come up with nothing.

[rkent]

Hi and thanks for your response.

I have the feeling you are assuming too much acad knowledge in me.

That asside, the 'get it centered by eye' bit - that is the essence of what I have looking for. As far as I can tell it is the tale waging the dog operation - zoom in a bit then adjust the viewport border to center that part of the drawing, zoom in again, etc...

Additionally, seems that the zooming is not centered on the center of the viewport when you are already zoomed in partially.

 

Also what do you mean by make the viewport current?

 

Sorry for my complete lack of knowledge - seems I know less that the minimum to learn how this simple function works. Are there no tutorials about this about. My search has come up with nothing.

 

OK, do not double click on the viewport border, that is a maximize viewport command. Instead double click inside the viewport, or at the bottom of the screen there is a Model space / Paper space button to toggle between the two, pick on that. You should still see the viewport(s) but your cursor will only work inside the current viewport. If you have more than one viewport then click once inside of it and now that one is current.

 

Now zoom extents, center what you want to show, apply the scale. Now either hit the toggle button at the bottom of the screen or move your cursor outside the viewport and double click, you will be back into paper space. Now lock the viewport, you can right click on the viewport and use a menu there, or click on the viewport and use properties, or type mview, lock, on, pick the viewport or type all to select all viewports.

[Yagoona]

WOW

Thats it mate

Thanks

I knew it was something stupid simple I was doing wrong

Double clicking within the viewport is something I must have dones but didnt know what to do with the tools that showed up. Thats what you get by doing things on a stupid deadline all the time. No time luxury to play and learn.

Well this one should be able to give me some extra time now.

Thanks very much everyone.

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[Dana W]

:roll:OK, then.

[SLW210]

I PAN just fine in the viewport. Double-clicking the VP border Maximizes the viewport, you can PAN all you want locked or unlocked when you minimize it will still be the same.

Just unlock and double-click inside the viewport.

 

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[Yagoona]

Thanks to you all (also SLW210 and Dana W) for helping me reach my moment of enlightenment with this feature in acad.