VTI892 Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 I have a problem with acad files. Almost every time i try copying objects from one acad file to another the program becomes unresponsive. It can be just a line. I am using acad 2007LT. The files usually are edited in acad 2007 LT and newer versions like 2010 and 2011 When i try to copy files the command line displays: "_pasteclip duplicate definition of block _archtick ignored". After this message is displayed nothing happens. Left the pc to process more than 15 minutes and still noting. Recently i tried inserting such a file as xref, but no luck. The progress bar gets to 99% and it stops. File size makes no difference because it happens with small files as well as large. I have to say that this problem doesn't accure to all the files, but the majority have this problem. My colleagues using 2007 lt have the same problem. When I need to copy something between files I make it a block and use design center to move the block between files. It is annoying as hell. Any suggestions to fix this problem? Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Can you zip up a drawing that is doing this and the one you are trying to copy from and post them here? Can't imagine what would be causing this unless the file sizes are ridiculously large. I don't have LT, but i do have a machine with the full version of 2007 on the other desk. If you can post those files I'll see if I can reproduce your problem. Quote
Dadgad Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 In autocad 2010 a new file type was introduced. In order to be readable on 2007, files need to be saved as Autocad2007/2007Lt.dwg files, not as Autocad 2010/2010LT.dwg files. Quote
nestly Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 When i try to copy files the command line displays: "_pasteclip duplicate definition of block _archtick ignored". After this message is displayed nothing happens. That's a normal message, and that is just letting you know another block with that name already exists in the drawing, but the block should still paste, and use the existing block definition. Dadgad may have a point with the mixed dwg versions. Data coming from 2010 and newer "may" contain information that 2007 just doesn't understand. I would not think it would apply to just lines copy/pasted between versions, but it may. AutoCAD2007 did have a copy/paste bug, but from your description and profile, it doesn't seem to be only occurring in 2007. Here's a link, you can read the description yourself and decide whether it applies to your particular issue. http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/cut_and_paste_hotfix0.htm Quote
VTI892 Posted February 4, 2012 Author Posted February 4, 2012 Can you zip up a drawing that is doing this and the one you are trying to copy from and post them here? The problem is the file i copy from, i can paste in a clean dwg file and the result would be the same. I'll upload a file on Monday, i don't have one at home. AutoCAD2007 did have a copy/paste bug I will definitely try this, and see what are the results. Quote
Dana W Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Since using the design center seems to aleviate the issue, it sounds like the drawings you are copying from need a good purge or two. That May not fix it but it would not hurt the drawings at all. You may be pulling unused block references, new layers, and other stuff, depending on what you are copying. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 In autocad 2010 a new file type was introduced. In order to be readable on 2007, files need to be saved as Autocad2007/2007Lt.dwg files, not as Autocad 2010/2010LT.dwg files. Even if you save a 2010 or newer file down, there are some things that don't translate. Mleaders, for one. I have a customer that I save down for, but if I use mleaders, I get an arrow with no text in the 2007 version. Quote
SLW210 Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Does 2007 LT have _scalelistedit? I know a bloated scale list caused that message in 2008 Full AutoCAD. Have you installed all Updates, Hotfixes, etc.? Quote
Tankman Posted February 5, 2012 Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) In autocad 2010 a new file type was introduced. In order to be readable on 2007, files need to be saved as Autocad2007/2007Lt.dwg files, not as Autocad 2010/2010LT.dwg files. I'm still usin' 2007 however, many clients demand *.dwg files in 2000. For my "staying at work, work", I often save to '07 in both *.dxf and *.dwg formats. When posting, I always post drawings, AutoCAD vs 2000. Many forum members can't open 2010 or newer versions of AutoCAD. Check the link below. Free download(s), numerous fixes. http://www.cadstudio.cz/en/download.asp Fix for Copy/Paste in ACAD2000 DWG files from ACAD2007 Edited February 5, 2012 by Tankman Quote
VTI892 Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 Does 2007 LT have _scalelistedit? I know a bloated scale list caused that message in 2008 Full AutoCAD. Thank you all for helping me with my problem. SLW210 you where right, all the drawings which manifest this problem have a large amount of annotation scales (hundreds). I have no clue how they where created, why or by who, because in the office nobody uses annotative text. Anyway after clearing the list the dwg was working flawlessly. So thanks for the suggestion. But i have a new problem now. I could do this on the computer of a colleague who has on acad 2010 full on his machine. On my workstation i couldn't do it. When i try to open the scale list i received an error message: See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box. ************** Exception Text ************** System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. at Autodesk.AutoCAD.ApplicationServices.ScaleListHelpers.loadScaleList(String[] scaleStr, Double[] scaleNum, Double[] scaleDenom, Int32[] scaleCount) at Autodesk.AutoCAD.ScaleList.ScaleListForm.Read() at Autodesk.AutoCAD.ScaleList.ScaleListForm.restoreData(Boolean bResetIfNoData) at Autodesk.AutoCAD.ScaleList.ScaleListForm..ctor() at Autodesk.AutoCAD.ScaleList.Commands.ScaleListEditCmd() at AcMgCommandClass.InvokeWorker(AcMgCommandClass* , MethodInfo mi, Object commandObject, Boolean bLispFunction) at AcMgCommandClass.InvokeWorkerWithExceptionFilter(AcMgCommandClass* , MethodInfo mi, Object commandObject, Boolean bLispFunction) at AcMgCommandClass.Invoke(AcMgCommandClass* , gcroot<:reflection::methodinfo>* mi, Boolean bLispFunction) at AcMgCommandClass.CommandThunk.Invoke(CommandThunk* ) ************** Loaded Assemblies ************** mscorlib Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3603 (GDR.050727-3600) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll ---------------------------------------- acdbmgd Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/AcdbMgd.DLL ---------------------------------------- msvcm80 Assembly Version: 8.0.50727.6195 Win32 Version: 8.00.50727.6195 CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/WinSxS/x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6195_x-ww_44262b86/msvcm80.dll ---------------------------------------- acmgd Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/acmgd.DLL ---------------------------------------- AcInfoCenterConn Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/AcInfoCenterConn.DLL ---------------------------------------- AdInfoCenter Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/AdInfoCenter.DLL ---------------------------------------- System.Windows.Forms Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll ---------------------------------------- System Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3614 (GDR.050727-3600) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll ---------------------------------------- Autodesk.Interop.AcInetEngine Assembly Version: 17.1.51.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/Autodesk.Interop.AcInetEngine.DLL ---------------------------------------- AdInfoCenter.resources Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/en-US/AdInfoCenter.resources.DLL ---------------------------------------- Accessibility Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Xml Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3082 (QFE.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Configuration Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll ---------------------------------------- rl5tg1wc Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.3614 (GDR.050727-3600) CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll ---------------------------------------- AcLayer Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/AcLayer.DLL ---------------------------------------- AcMgdShared Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/AcMgdShared.DLL ---------------------------------------- acmgdinternal Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/acmgdinternal.DLL ---------------------------------------- AcLayer.resources Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/en-US/AcLayer.resources.DLL ---------------------------------------- AcScaleList Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/AcScaleList.DLL ---------------------------------------- AcScaleList.resources Assembly Version: 17.1.0.0 Win32 Version: 17.1.51.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/AutoCAD%20LT%202008/en-US/AcScaleList.resources.DLL ---------------------------------------- ************** JIT Debugging ************** To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this application or computer (machine.config) must have the jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section. The application must also be compiled with debugging enabled. For example: When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception will be sent to the JIT de****** registered on the computer rather than be handled by this dialog box. Quote
SLW210 Posted February 6, 2012 Posted February 6, 2012 See Scale List Cleanup Utility for AutoCAD 2010 Quote
VTI892 Posted February 6, 2012 Author Posted February 6, 2012 I have on the computer acad 2007 lt. Is there anything for my version of autocad? Quote
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