drawing views

[swats]

Just recently I got a chance to try out Autocad 2012. I modeled up an assembly. I then wblocked my individual details into separate files for detailing. I used the new drawing view tool to create my isometric views. The issue I am having is the outer most edges of my views is not being shown all the time. If I zoom in the edges appear, but when you zoom out to view the entire drawing, the edges are no longer visible. It is like the border around the view that the drawing view tool creates is not offset far enough. Does anyone use the new drawing view tool? Or is it best to stick the old solview/soldraw method? Thanks.

[khama]

I don't fully understand what you are asking, but is there a reason why you have used wblock instead of block command? Are you using modelspace or paperspace? is the assembly solids or surfaces? I use modelspace for all dimensioning, but also from time to time use paperspace using the MVSETUP command. solview/soldraw is a tried and tested method too.

[swats]

Ok to clarify. I use the wblock command to separate my make detail models from my main assembly file/drawing. I have my 3d model in model space and I use paper space for my orthographic views, dimensioning, title block. The main assembly is 3d solids. Normally I would use solview/soldraw to make my drawing views for my 3d solids. I just got the opportunity to try out Autocad 2012. One of the things I was really interested in with 2012 was the new drawing view commands. The issue I am having is when I use the new command is the "viewport" (for lack of a better term) seems to be slightly too small to show the outer most object lines of my drawing views. It is like the viewport windows needs to be a little larger. I spent about an hour looking on with Google for a solution. But I did not find any information on a setting or something for viewport border offset in relationship to the model it is based upon. So I went back to solview/soldraw for now, to complete the project I am working on. hopefully that clears things up a little.

[Dadgad]

Ok to clarify. I use the wblock command to separate my make detail models from my main assembly file/drawing. I have my 3d model in model space and I use paper space for my orthographic views, dimensioning, title block. The main assembly is 3d solids. Normally I would use solview/soldraw to make my drawing views for my 3d solids. I just got the opportunity to try out Autocad 2012. One of the things I was really interested in with 2012 was the new drawing view commands. The issue I am having is when I use the new command is the "viewport" (for lack of a better term) seems to be slightly too small to show the outer most object lines of my drawing views. It is like the viewport windows needs to be a little larger. I spent about an hour looking on with Google for a solution. But I did not find any information on a setting or something for viewport border offset in relationship to the model it is based upon. So I went back to solview/soldraw for now, to complete the project I am working on. hopefully that clears things up a little.

 

The VIEWBASE generated drawings are not VIEWPORTS, like you would get using SOLDRAW and SOLVIEW. They are more similar to SOLPROF generated drawings which are split onto 2 new layers, with one of the blocks being everything visible in the view, and the other being everything which would be hidden in the view. The prefix to the newly generated SOLPROF layers are PH for hidden, and PV for visible. Unlike SOLPROF which generates into modelspace, VIEWBASE images are shown in paperspace.

The Viewbase generated images are static (albeit associative) representations of any 3D Solids in your modelspace. The views can be resized, have their visualstyles changed, and be orthogonally linked to their parent views on the layout, or that link can be undone. You can also turn off layers which you do not want to show. You cannot zoom into them. Should the model in modelspace have been changed since the VIEWBASE images were generated, then the borders of any images which are no longer correct will turn red, to indicate that problem. This can be fixed with the push of a button on your right click shortcut menu. It is really fast, and I think much better than previous iterations. Should you need an additional viewport, of whatever type, you can still add one or more to show nonstandard UCS views. The standard orthogonal views and isometric views are supported by VIEWBASE. There are additional functional enhancements available to those working with INVENTOR files.

 

Bear in mind that VIEWBASE generated images are not retrocompatible, to earlier Autocad products. Make sure that anyone who does not have Autocad 2012 on their system has downloaded the free DWG TRU VIEW 2012 from the Autodesk website, and then they will be able to read the VIEWBASE generated images.

Edited March 11, 2012 by Dadgad

[swats]

Is there a setting in Autocad to changes from inches to metric? Maybe that might be the issue. That it is not off setting the "border" of the view far enough? For instance 1mm instead of 1 inch? Regardless not being able send the autocad file to my customers might be an issue.

[Dadgad]

Is there a setting in Autocad to changes from inches to metric? Maybe that might be the issue. That it is not off setting the "border" of the view far enough? For instance 1mm instead of 1 inch? Regardless not being able send the autocad file to my customers might be an issue.

 

UNITS > insertion scale. Millimeters or Unitless. You should be using a DWT (template) which is in the same measuring system as your blocks. Meaning an Imperial based one for measurements of feet, inches, etc. and a Metric template for non-imperial measurements.

[rickh]

also might want to reset the scales list if you change from imperial to metric. The viewport scales may need adjusting (although I cannot speak for any new tools in 2012)

[ReMark]

You might try getting off on the right foot by utilizing a template that is specifically geared to metric drawing along with using the metric linetypes. Both of these would save you a world of headaches not to mention time.

[swats]

Mark that might be the issue. I always have been using the acad.dwt for the template. A proper drawing template might be the answer to my view problem and the solution to the issues I have been having with my line types and dimension styles. FYI for anyone reading this thread I have a post in the 2d section regarding dimension styles and line types with metric scales.

[ReMark]

Once you have that template (or templates) set up you don't have to worry about this niggling little details any more. Throw in your favorite text styles and layering conventions and away you go. So simple.