Annotative....

[Honda Matt]

Ok, heres the deal. We have 3 different AutoCAD software versions.

2009 - which most drafters use

2006 w/ Microvellum v.6.6.201 - which the engineers use

2011 LT- which the newest drafter uses

2000 - in the conference rooms (2)

 

I know that some functions on newer versions will not work on older versions. But heres the issue that we are having.

 

Our section markers are annotative (layer: TEXT, Blue color, Continuous, 0.15mm Lineweight)

 

When drawn in 2011 LT they show up fine. But when viewed in 2006 or 2000 the layer switches to TEXT @ 0 and will not print. When viewed in 2009 there is no issue with the switching of layers.

 

We do NOT have a layer set up as TEXT @ 0. It makes this layer on its own.

 

Any help would be great.

 

Thanks,

Matt

[ReMark]

That feature you describe is called Visual Fidelity. It applies to drawings that are back saved to AutoCAD 2007 file format or earlier.

 

I am puzzled by that fact that you have a "0" showing at the end of that layer name ( TEXT @ 0 ) as usually whatever appears there should in fact refer to a scale. So, for example, if I had an annotation scale of 1:20 for layer TEXT I would see TEXT @ 20 if backed saved to AutoCAD 2000 or 2006 file format.

[Honda Matt]

That feature you describe is called Visual Fidelity. It applies to drawings that are back saved to AutoCAD 2007 file format or earlier.

 

How do I fix solve this?

 

Never mind I found it

[ReMark]

To learn more about Visual Fidelity as it pertains to Annotation Scaling I recommend you read "Annotation Scaling - Make Drawings Smarter with Intelligent Text" by David Cohn. Reference AutoDesk University 2008 course number GD315-1P.

[Honda Matt]

Ok,

2009 & 2011 LT have the Maintain visual fidelity for annotative objects but 2006 & 2000 do not, both are set on. If the file was saved with the visual fidelity on, why would the object not be visable in paper space and switch layers in 2006 and 2000.

 

2009 & 2011 LT

FILEDIA (1)

SAVEFIDELITY (1)

ANNOALLVISIBLE (1)

 

Have not checked 2000 & 2006 for the above settings. Will and and see if that changes anything

[ReMark]

I still have to question why the "scale" is "0". There was no annotative scale set in the original drawing for the objects on layer TEXT?

[Honda Matt]

I still have to question why the "scale" is "0". There was no annotative scale set in the original drawing for the objects on layer TEXT?

 

I was mistaken its TEXT @ 24

[ReMark]

That's better. Here is a link to that paper...http://www.dscohn.com/AU/handouts/GD315-1P%20Annotation%20Scaling-DOC.pdf

 

Go to page 13 and start reading.

 

I would like to provide you with a definitive answer to your question but I'm "one of those people" who has no real need to use annotative scaling as I do all my text and dimensions in my paper space layout thus avoiding all the "gotchas" and unique system variables associated with that particular feature of AutoCAD. I am not saying annotative scaling isn't worth using or that my method is the better of the two. I do see where some companies can really benefit from the use of annotative scaling.

[Honda Matt]

We only use annotative scaling on a few dynamic blocks that when scaled down/up they become unusable. Other wise we have scaled dims that set our text height. We do all notes, dimensions in model space with the drawings, that way when we change the drawing we dont have to redim or renote it.

[Honda Matt]

Ok,

2009 & 2011 LT have the Maintain visual fidelity for annotative objects but 2006 & 2000 do not, both are set on. If the file was saved with the visual fidelity on, why would the object not be visable in paper space and switch layers in 2006 and 2000.

 

2009 & 2011 LT

FILEDIA (1)

SAVEFIDELITY (1)

ANNOALLVISIBLE (1)

 

Have not checked 2000 & 2006 for the above settings. Will and and see if that changes anything

 

Ok,

Both 2000 & 2006 do NOT have SAVEFIDELITY & ANNOALLVISIBLE. They are an Unknown command.

 

Could that be the reason that the annotative dynamic blocks are converting layers and not visable?

 

Is there a way to make annotative item mantain its settings in older versions of AutoCAD, 2000 thru 2007? I believe that annotative came out in 2008, is that correct?

 

Dynamic blocks loose there settings in 2000 also, I found out

[ReMark]

That's correct re: 2000 and 2006. Like I said, anything 2007 and prior does not support annotative scaling.

 

Did you take a look at that paper by Cohn I gave you the nice link to previously?

 

There are NO annotative settings in AutoCAD 2007 and previous. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

 

Yes, A.S. was introduced with 2008.

[Honda Matt]

That's correct re: 2000 and 2006. Like I said, anything 2007 and prior does not support annotative scaling.

 

Did you take a look at that paper by Cohn I gave you the nice link to previously?

 

There are NO annotative settings in AutoCAD 2007 and previous. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

 

Yes, A.S. was introduced with 2008.

 

I have not have time to look at the paper by Cohn. But that sucks about the annotative.

 

Thanks for you help.

Matt

[ReMark]

AutoDesk did what it could to accommodate annotative scaling in releases prior to 2008 but they weren't about to put a lot of effort into it as they had a new release to market.

 

The only way I can see around it is for your company to upgrade everyone to avoid these kinds of hassles.

[Honda Matt]

 

The only way I can see around it is for your company to upgrade everyone to avoid these kinds of hassles.

 

I agree but thats a whole nother discussion