Using the MOVE Command

[Tyler Durden]

Hi,

 

I'm following a tutorial which involves augmenting an existing engineering drawing. Part of the tutorial involves using the MOVE command.

 

I've been asked to move a facing brick to a new location, however when entering the co-ordinates the brick moves to a completely wrong position.

 

Here are the steps I'm going through:

 

Click Move command;

Highlight brick;

click enter;

Enter first co-ordinate;

Comma,

Enter second co-ordinate;

Then Enter.

 

However, the image them moves to the wrong area.

 

What am I doing wrong here?

[nestly]

My guess is that AutoCAD is using "absolute" coords when you intend to use "relative" coords, or vice versa. Which mode autocad defaults to depends on whether you are using Dynamic Input (pointer input) and/or your dynamic input settings in DSETTINGS.

 

In either case, you can "force" autocad to use absolute coords by preceding your first coordinate with a hash tag # , or relative coords by using a an "at" symbol @

 

If you still need assistance, let us know if you are using Dynamic Input, and whether you want to move the object to a specific location, or a location relative to it's current location.

[Dadgad]

Welcome to CADTutor Tyler.

 

A footnote to nestly's post.

Should you want to check your current dynamic pointer input settings,

type DS (Drafting Settings) at the commandline and hit ENTER,

then follow the visual prompts in the screenshot.

 

This setting is controlled by the DYNPICOORDS system variable,

as described in the second screenshot which was accessed by the SYSVDLG command.

Another way to check the current setting is to type DYNPICOORDS at the commandline and hit ENTER. The current system variable setting will be

displayed at the commandline, and you will be given the option of

entering a new value, which for this particular system variable has to be either 0 or 1, as described in the screenshot.

[Tyler Durden]

I've followed the advice, but am still getting the same issue: the object moves to a totally different location than the example shown.

 

Nestly: I'm being asked to move a part to a specific location, which isn't relative to another object.

[nestly]

In your original post, you didn't indicate that you picked a basepoint.... did you?

 

Command: MOVE
Select objects: Specify opposite corner: 2 found
Select objects:
Specify base point or [Displacement] <Displacement>: Specify second point or <use first point as displacement>:
Specify second point or <use first point as displacement>: 8,4

[dbroada]

I'm not sure the instructions are correct - I think it is first coordinate in the form 0,0 - then enter followed by second coordinate in the form (absolute) #10,45 (or relative) @13,67

[Tyler Durden]

I'm not sure the instructions are correct - I think it is first coordinate in the form 0,0 - then enter followed by second coordinate in the form (absolute) #10,45 (or relative) @13,67

 

No, tried that - getting the same result.

[ReMark]

Attach a copy of the DWG file to your next post along with the instructions you are trying to following. Maybe we can solve your problem before 2014 gets here.

[Tyler Durden]

In your original post, you didn't indicate that you picked a basepoint.... did you?

 

Sorry, forgot to mention in my original post: I've clicked the bottom left hand corner of the brick and used that as the basepoint.

 

I've then pressed enter.

 

Then input the co-ordinates: 230, comma, 2370, then enter. The image then moves way off left, or too far up, depending on whether I'm entering the @ or # symbol, or just entering the co-ordinates.

 

I've attempted doing this as is, in addition to beginning with an # symbol, and trying the @ symbol, as was suggested; however I'm still getting the same result.

[Tyler Durden]

Attach a copy of the DWG file to your next post along with the instructions you are trying to following. Maybe we can solve your problem before 2014 gets here.

 

No, the tutorial was issued by my school. I'm not aware of their policy, besides I wouldn't be comfortable attaching it here.

 

And the sarcasm wasn't needed.

[mikekmx]

Sorry, forgot to mention in my original post: I've clicked the bottom left hand corner of the brick and used that as the basepoint.

 

I've then pressed enter.

 

Then input the co-ordinates: 230, comma, 2370, then enter. The image then moves way off left, or too far up, depending on whether I'm entering the @ or # symbol, or just entering the co-ordinates.

 

I've attempted doing this as is, in addition to beginning with an # symbol, and trying the @ symbol, as was suggested; however I'm still getting the same result.

 

try not pressing enter at this point. what happens.

[ReMark]

Your school probably "borrowed" the tutorial. I was trying to hurry the process along as it appeared you were not satisfied with the responses (which were all good by the way) you were getting. That suggests to me anyway that your description of the problem was not very accurate.

Edited December 27, 2013 by ReMark

[mikekmx]

No, the tutorial was issued by my school. I'm not aware of their policy, besides I wouldn't be comfortable attaching it here.

 

And the sarcasm wasn't needed.

 

if the tutorial is THAT secret, perhaps they should be helping you? Is it NSA related? 'nuff said.

 

also, it's looking like you will not be able to achieve a MOVE by 2014, so ReMark was being optimistic rather than sarcastic .

[ReMark]

It's a tutorial not a full set of plans for a new invention that will be submitted to the U.S. Patent Office. People post copies of tutorials on a daily basis. Heck, even the presenters at AutoCAD University have been known to post their tutorials and these are people who are experts in their field.

[Tyler Durden]

try not pressing enter at this point. what happens.

 

No, still getting the same issue.

[mikekmx]

No, still getting the same issue.

 

it would REALLY be a lot simpler to post the dwg so someone can test it.

 

I would suggest an alternative method - draw a line with 1 end at the new co-ords you want, then (using snaps) manually move the brick to the new location.

would be interesting to have your dwg to see why there is a prob/prove there is no prob.

[ReMark]

Did you at some point relocate the origin of your UCS?

[SuperCAD]

Draw a line (or lines), or a point at the specific spot you want to move the object to, and then move the objects using the base point that needs to be at the specific location you just drew. You can snap the objects to it rather than relying on the coordinates.

 

For example, let's say you need to move the object(s) up 30' and to the left 15'. Start a line with the beginning point on a corner/point of the object(s) you want to move, and make a line that is 30' vertically. Now draw another line that is 15' horizontally from the end of the vertical line. Select your objects and move them using the first point of the vertical line as your base point, and the second point of the horizontal line as your placement point.

[Tyler Durden]

Draw a line (or lines), or a point at the specific spot you want to move the object to, and then move the objects using the base point that needs to be at the specific location you just drew. You can snap the objects to it rather than relying on the coordinates.

 

For example, let's say you need to move the object(s) up 30' and to the left 15'. Start a line with the beginning point on a corner/point of the object(s) you want to move, and make a line that is 30' vertically. Now draw another line that is 15' horizontally from the end of the vertical line. Select your objects and move them using the first point of the vertical line as your base point, and the second point of the horizontal line as your placement point.

 

I can do this fine enough, but I want to be able to use the move command without having to rely on this method.

[nestly]

AutoCAD typically does what it's told, so my guess is that the object is being moved to the coords you specify. To test, try drawing a line from 0,0 to 230,2370, then try moving the object again using #230,2370 as the destination. If you don't have the same result as shown below, press F2 and copy/paste the command line history from the beginning of the LINE command to the end of the MOVE command.

 

If you can't share the drawing, and can't share the Command line history, then I'm not sure how we're going to be able to help you figure out what's going on.