olliebr Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Afternoon, *NEW MEMBER ALERT* im attempting to knock up some frames for A1 drawings using attributes for revisions, titles, drawing numbers, etc. the drawing number/revision will be displayed at the bottom right and top left of the drawing (top left will be vertical). I was wondering if its possible to create one attribute which updates both references, this will avoid problems in the past where the bottom one gets updated and the other is left in its old revision, just another way of minimising human error, (not that any of us are human enough for that sort of thing) Regards, Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 You can use FIELDS in attributes or as mtext in the title block. Maybe this will work for you? Then you can use the File/Properties to change the fields. Quote
dbroada Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 its not as easy as it should be. If you are happy using custom properties (file menu) then the above solution works - but doesn't stop others in the office over-writing the field (no matter how many times I tell them ) Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 What if you add the field as metext inside the block, not as an attribute? Quote
dbroada Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 yes that would work but all my time would then be spent convincing them to use the properties menu. actually, I didn't realise in time that I could use MTEXT in the block and by the time I did all my good work had been undone. Quote
olliebr Posted December 12, 2008 Author Posted December 12, 2008 ok, thanks for that, for the time being i think ill leave it as 2 seperate sets of attributes, Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I havent tried this, but you could probably set one of the attributes to Preset or Constant and use a Field pointing to the other one? Quote
dbroada Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I havent tried this, but you could probably set one of the attributes to Preset or Constant and use a Field pointing to the other one? I have didn't work for me Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Not so elegant, because I hade to insert Block1 before I could link Tag2 in Block2 to Tag1 in Block1. After a Regen Tag2 is now the same as Tag1. Tag2 in Block2 is linked to Tag1 in Block1.dwg Quote
dbroada Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 but you have to explode your block to get to the attribute edit.. and the linking still doesn't work. can you talk me through how this should work in a new drawing scenario. Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 It work for me. I don't edit the upper one, only the lower, block1. After I edit Tag1 in Block1 I have to do a REgen or a Save. Quote
dbroada Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 I can get it to work using BEDIT. Is that how you intend for it to work? another EDIT if you then add other attributes, as you will have in a border, it requires 2 steps to work fully. Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 No, strange, in my AutoCAD 2005 I only change the lower right attribute, with double click (EATTEDIT) or (the better) DDATTE. Then the other one follows automatically (after a save or regen). Quote
dbroada Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 must be something that changed with the introduction of dynamic blocks then. If I double click the block I go straight to BEDIT (as it doesn't have attributes) where another double click allows me to change your block. If I add an attribute a double click allows me to change them but not access the attribute in the sub block. Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Sorry, this is interesting, but I may have been unclear. Did you insert my dwg? Try just to open it and edit the (very simple) title block. I made this as an example where you have two different blocks in a dwg. The border can be one block with a constant attribute linked to a tag in the title block. I see some problems here, if you need to change the border (paper size) for example. Maybe a small VBA is the solution, as usual. After every attedit, see if other blocks in the dwg needs to be updated according to some set of rules. Quote
dbroada Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 we may be at cross purposes here but I am interested in finding a "simple" solution to this. I recall a couple of months back somebody did resolve it (feargt maybe) but it involved many steps. I don't know what the OP was after but I would like a single border with many attributes. I would like one position to reflect one of the typed attributes. I can get 2 blocks to sync bbut what I was hoping for is 2 attributes in one block to sync. Part of the problem I have is that we employ a fair number of contract draughtsmen who don't seem capable of following simple instructions. If something doesn't do what they want their first response is to explode everything in sight. Quote
rkent Posted December 12, 2008 Posted December 12, 2008 Afternoon, *NEW MEMBER ALERT* im attempting to knock up some frames for A1 drawings using attributes for revisions, titles, drawing numbers, etc. the drawing number/revision will be displayed at the bottom right and top left of the drawing (top left will be vertical). I was wondering if its possible to create one attribute which updates both references, this will avoid problems in the past where the bottom one gets updated and the other is left in its old revision, just another way of minimising human error, (not that any of us are human enough for that sort of thing) Regards, I think the plot stamp could be used for this, of course you would have people turning that off, nothing is fool proof. Quote
olliebr Posted December 18, 2008 Author Posted December 18, 2008 ok thanks chaps, it appears to be one of those niggling problems without an easy solution. i'll have a go with your ideas and see if the staff can handle a new procedure!!! Regards, Quote
jamilullail Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Hello guys iam new here,Somebody can help me with my question?? 1.What is mean by attributes? 2,Uses of Atributes? 3.advantages of attributes 4.what is purpose of Enhanced Attribute Editor 5.Function of Block Attribute Manager 6.uses of attribute extraction Finnally Detail of how to prepare a block for attribute uses?? I hope Somebody can help me to Figure out this q. Quote
Raggi_Thor Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 1) Attributes are named text field within a block. They have a name called the tag and a value. They also have a promt, the question users see when they fill inn values. 2) Typical uses are in title blocks, with tags like Designed_by and Date, and in room info block with tags like Room_number and Name, and in item numbers and parts lists. 3) Compared to dumb text, the biggest advantage is the name, tha tag, of each attribute. This makes it more organized. 4) You can change text styles etc of each attribute later, after the blocks are inserted. 5) Don't remember 6) You can extract attributes to text files or xls. Imagine a drawing with many rooms, you can get a spreadsheet with columns like Room number, name, area etc. Quote
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