rustysilo Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I am trying to divy up a 3d logo for our company. I want it to have a shiny gold material (which I don't seem to have). Does anyone have a shiny gold material and willing to share? Can I get help with lighting? Can I get help with render settings (regular AutoCAD)? I have now attached an image of what I'm working on. As you can see I am in dire need of assistance with lighting and rendering. Oh yeah, I used an out of the box satin brass material. I want a material that is shiny/glossy more like a gold mirrored look. Well, not mirrored per se, but you know what I mean. Sorta like chrome, but gold in color. Polished. Uhm... shiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 HERE is a good tutorial for greating gold, silver and copper materials. The tutorial is for 3DS Max, but you can use it as a reference for creating your material in Autocad. Lighting and Rendering can wait until you have the logo built and materials applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thanks a bunch, but I'm already lost at step 2. I guess regular AutoCAD (actually using Civil 3d) doesn't have some of that stuff...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursnutter Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Might not be what you want to hear but, photoshop is excellent for 3d text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Nah doesn't really help since we don't have that. I have the GIMP loaded and might be able to pull it off that way, but I thought I'd give it a shot in AutoCAD first for practice. I have never gotten into dealing with materials, lighting and rendering beyond the default ootb settings so I'm clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 here are the 2 golds loaded in acad 05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 I don't believe those are loaded in '08, at least not in the materials tool palette. Maybe they're in one of the ootb templates? Besides, neither of them appear to be very shiny having the polished look I'm looking for... Unless that can be achieved by changing the lighting and rendering settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 in acad 08 you should have an advanced metals template and there should be a gold in there. I checked out some of the material resources online last night and couldnt find anything, but i didnt search for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'm fixin to look for it. All I've found thus far is brass, which is what I used on the above logo. It doesn't have the shine though as it's more of a brushed look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 brass in solidworks gold in solidworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 I can't find it yet... OK so lets just say I use the brass/satin that I used in the first logo above. What can I do with lighting and rendering settings to improve the output? Right now default lighting is off and I have a point light located 5" in front of the logo with settings as attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Anyone? Is this thing on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Have you tried rendering it yet? Post some images so we can see what needs tweaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Nothing more than what I posted previously. As I said it was just default render settings and the light was a point light with the settings in my previous post. That's it. All I done so far. Been waiting for advice on the settings and any other ideas that would improve it. Can you tell I don't know all that much when it comes to solid modeling and rendering? I'm at the point now where I can deal with the material I've applied so long as I can get the final output to be more realistic and good enough to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 rusty, i played around with materials a bit today in acad07, i downloaded some images of gold and i also had some images of shiny aluminum and other things. I was able to get a decent rough gold material like something that may have been cast, but i wasnt able to create a shiny reflective one just yet. You will have to search the materials stickys at the top of this forum and find one that is close and just use it under the advanced metal or realistic metal settings in your material window. as far as the lighting goes, im not sure what to tell you on that. You may try using spot lights and playing with their intensities, also changing their colors to a more yellowish color. I did a google search for gold material and came up with several images of gold. I looked for the largest one then took a clip of part of the material but this didnt really "blend" well. ill keep playing around a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 also, were either of the last two images i posted close to what you are looking for? the ones done in solidworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Well, I have been working in the GIMP to see if I could get a nice effect, but to no avail thus far. Here's the tutorial I was trying to follow. My end product looks nowhere near as good as the ones in the tut though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 also, were either of the last two images i posted close to what you are looking for? the ones done in solidworks Actually, yeah, those look pretty good. Maybe if you added some light... Is there a good free, open-source type rendering program I could drop the file into to get a better quality render? Most of the time folks around here say that the AutoCAD render engine isn't the best right? Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 acad 08-09 render engine is great. 07 is a little behind it. 06 and older, were good but not great. so if you have 08 im assuming you have a good render engine. awhile back i posted pictures of a spark plug i drew in acad 09(same render engine as 08) and i thought it looked pretty real. http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj39/shift1313/cad/SparkPlugPresent13.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj39/shift1313/cad/SparkPlugPresent8.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustysilo Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Yeah man that was sweet. Now if I could just learn how to use that part of the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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