Scale List Clean

[bumblebbabe]

In my job I work off surveys and alot of the time they come in with a million scales and it takes me AGES to scroll through them all.

 

I have been using Scale List Edit to clean up my files....but in the past few weeks a new error box has been popping up preventing it from working. (see attached image)

 

My boss has a little red dot which is called "Scale List Clean" (see attached image) which automatically resets her scale list.

 

At the moment I have to get her to open my files and click her little red dot to fix the scale list. (obviously not ideal)

 

When I search for 'Scale List Clean" all I find is "Scale List Edit"

 

 

Just wondering if anybody has any ideas as to how I can either a) fix the error message or b) figure out how to get the little red dot.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

If it matters I am using AutoCAD 2008

[Dadgad]

What version of Autocad is your boss using?

What happens when you click the DETAILS icon on that screen warning?

I am curious why the exception disclaimer is talking about an ARRAY issue?

Edited April 21, 2015 by Dadgad

[Dadgad]

Someone (who is comfortable doing it) needs to go into the CUI on your bosses software,

and access the TOOLBARS. By locating that toolbar, one can right click on that icon, which will subsequently open a display on the right side of the screen which will contain the MACRO (which is the series of commands which that button initiates).

 

Once you have that MACRO written down (exactly, or else it won't work right, spaces matter, should be left in place), then it is pretty easy to create a new button on whichever of your toolbars you would like it to be. A Macro is basically a shortened version of your commandline input to achieve a particular result.

 

This is a custom -PURGE , AUDIT, SAVE button which I created for easy one click use.

Edited April 21, 2015 by Dadgad

[SLW210]

See if this thread helps http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/showthread.php?91587-quot-Drawing-contains-large-number-of-annotation-scales

[bumblebbabe]

@Dadgad

 

My boss is also using Autocad 2008, we are all on the same system.

She said an old employee put the red dot on all the computers a few years ago, but weirdly it has disappeared and hers is now the only one that has it left.

 

I have attached 2 images of what happens when I click details.

Absolutely no idea why it is talking about ARRAY....

 

Also thanks heaps for posting that detailed explanation about the toolbars!

I am not confident enough to start exploring through things, but my colleague who is in tomorrow has more experience, so hopefully he can have a go!

 

thank you @SLW210 for posting that link!

I had a skim through it and the link looks quite relevant to my problems....I will have a more in depth read over it later tonight.

[SLW210]

This error is unrelated to the ARRAY in AutoCAD, but, an array in programming.

 

I would guess (be nice to see the Macro associated with the button), the button with the Red Dot is invoking the Scale List Cleanup or something similar.

[Dana W]

AutoCad 2008 has some really creepy programming going on inside of it. It is completely incapable of handling scale list processing. Even after the service packs and the hotfixes are applied it still gets bloated. Open the drawing in ANY newer version, reset the scale list to default values, save back to your version, and get on with it. Versions after 2010 will even tell you the drawing has a fat scale list upon being opened, and almost demand that you let it fix the issue for you Right Now.

 

Yes, the Array referred to above is a construct used in computer programming to (usually) compare incoming data to a number of items in a list (array), or load the data into an array, and do things to it while in a processing loop, like Do While, or Do until another condition is met. That error above occurs because some programmer did not trap the value of the "array" subscript (counter) before it drove the process past the end of the array, or started the array processing without initializing the counter back to zero or one. The code says, "count to ten", the counter is already set at eleven, so the program gets a headache, and passes out.

Edited April 23, 2015 by Dana W

[Dana W]

This error is unrelated to the ARRAY in AutoCAD, but, an array in programming.

 

I would guess (be nice to see the Macro associated with the button), the button with the Red Dot is invoking the Scale List Cleanup or something similar.

The button is without a doubt, the Edit cale List button on the User Preferences tab in that version, or maybe even the Reset Scale List button. I used to use 2008. I've had the program just vaporize with no messages at all, simply by clicking the Reset, or Edit Scale list buttons, and/or executing SCALELISTEDIT.

[Dadgad]

AutoCad 2008 has some really creepy programming going on inside of it.

Yes, the Array referred to above is a construct used in computer programming to (usually) compare incoming data to a number of items in a list (array), or load the data into an array, and do things to it while in a processing loop, like Do While, or Do until, or Doo Whop .....The code says, "count to ten", the counter is already set at eleven, so the program gets a headache, and passes out.

 

"Eleven" Nigel, like in SPINAL TAP?

Thanks Dana, that makes sense, but was news to me.

 

Yep SLW, be nice to see the MACRO, so we know for sure.

[SLW210]

I never had a problem with Scale Lists or cleaning them in AutoCAD 2008, it all worked just fine company wide AFAIK.

[Dana W]

I never had a problem with Scale Lists or cleaning them in AutoCAD 2008, it all worked just fine company wide AFAIK.

I am thoroughly convinced that AutoDesk makes unannounced fixes to the product during production runs. In other words YMMV.

 

Yes, In my office where the 2008 scale list problem was rampant a few years back, only 1 1/2 years back to be exact, there were two seats that did not have the issue, and were frequently used to de-bloat our drawings made in less fortunate copies of the program. The worst cases resulted in using AutoCad Arch generated drawings as xrefs. They'd seem to bloat up like a colicy cow every time the dwg was opened. There was obviously some problem reconciling the xref dwg data with the base dwg. The scale lists just kept getting added to instead of merged, apparently. The tag xref- would be added to the front of the scale item names, even if it was already there. So each time a drawing was opened, the program goes "Lookie, a new bunch of scales".

 

I've seen scale items with xref-xref-xref repeated in one scale name upwards of 100 times. I know there are other reasons it would bloat up, but this one was the easiest to see.