playing with the misuse scale

[stenews]

Hi to everyone!

I'm a new brand user and first off I'd like to introduce my self to the forum group.

My name is stefano and I'm really please to meet you

 

I use AutoCad 2005 and I'm a newbie.

Last day my uncle came to me with a .dwg file showing a planimetric map.

The map has a scale of 1:1000. It means to me that 1 mm took from the dwg map should correspond to 1 meter in the real life. Am I right?

OK, What my uncle asked to me is to plot (print) just a small piece of this map in a way that this piece should result with a scale of 1:100. That should be a larger one.

 

Hope someone will help me and I said thanks in advantage.

Bye,

Stefano.

[skipsophrenic]

1st off, welcome to the forums.

 

And 2nd Is the scale shown in model or paperspace?

[stenews]

hi mate. the 1:1000 is write down to the paper space.

[ScribbleJ]

Welcome to the forums Stefano. I'm a newbie here to the forums myself but I've been a Design CAD for 17 years now.

 

The one thing you should note with the 1:1000 scale is that this is a ratio scale which means that 1 inch = 1000 feet (aka 12" = 1000'). The thing you need to pay attention to is what the dwg files units are set to. If they are in feet then what I mentioned is correct. If its in meters then the ratio would be considered as 1 meter = 1000 meters.

 

I hope this helps. Please ask anything. Don't think any question is stupid because you don't know it. Even the simplest of questions can have a profound answer.

[skipsophrenic]

Right, can you click on the border of your viewport and then tell me what it

says the viewport scale is in the properties dialogue box.

 

I'm hoping my theory is correct here

*fingers crossed*

[stenews]

right mates...

 

@ScribbleJ, thanks to you for your answer.

OK as you said 1 meter = 1000 meters it's the same if I said 1 millimetre is 1000 millimetres that are 1 meter so 1mm is 1 meter. Is it the same? Am I right? We are saying the same.

 

@skipsophrenic

click on the border of your viewport

Where... have I to go to view->viewports and after.

sorry...I need but more details

[skipsophrenic]

When you click on the viewport in paperspace what scale does the properties bar show?

 

 

Note: the viewport maybe a different color on your machine, also if you cant see it then it may be on a frozen layer.

 

[ScribbleJ]

right mates...

 

@ScribbleJ, thanks to you for your answer.

OK as you said 1 meter = 1000 meters it's the same if I said 1 millimetre is 1000 millimetres that are 1 meter so 1mm is 1 meter. Is it the same? Am I right? We are saying the same.

 

@skipsophrenic

Where... have I to go to view->viewports and after.

sorry...I need but more details

 

Yes you are correct Stenews. 1mm = 1000mm equals 1m = 1000m

[stenews]

ok mate, it says custom to me.

no no one in blue

[skipsophrenic]

i'm just trying to confirm what scale the map was drawn at, if

it was drawn at 1:1 in modelspace , then all you needs to do

is set the viewport to 1:100 in paperspace for what you want to show

sorry being so long winded

about it.

[stenews]

thanks to your help too, ScribbleJ

[ScribbleJ]

thanks to your help too, ScribbleJ

 

 

Your welcome. Just follow what Skipso is saying. He is on the right track.

[stenews]

How can I check the model space scale? May be I was wrong

[ScribbleJ]

How can I check the model space scale? May be I was wrong

 

There is no scale in model space unless you actually draw to scale. Normally entities in model space are 1:1. Paperspace however can and usually does have a scale associated to the viewport.

[skipsophrenic]

If it says that scale in PAPERSPACE then that is what the map is showing as when you plot the drawing.

 

1st rule of CAD Operator - Draw 1:1 in model space, show at appropriate scale in the viewport in paperspace.

 

E.G. today I had to draw a wall 5m long by 15m high.

 

Then in paperspace I placed a viewport showing the wall at a scale of 1:50.

 

that's why i needed to know if the scale was shown in the paper space tab

or model space

[stenews]

right... from the paper space if I simply change the scale to custom in 1:100 it seems to work. But after how can I select the part I need?

Simply ctrl+p and after choose window type? and so on?

[stenews]

what does it means custom scale? Is it a mistake or what? Have I to redraw all?

[skipsophrenic]

When you say the part, do you mean the whole drawing paperspace or just a portion.

[stenews]

just a portion

[skipsophrenic]

Custom scale is where you can put your own scale in, instead of using standard scales like 1:1, 1:2, 1:5, etc . . . You could put a ridiculous scale like

1:243543 And AutoCAD would show it at that.