Objects are locked, only viewable in paperspace??

[Croweyes1121]

Can anyone help me here?

 

I need the objects that show up in paperspace to be grab-able. I don't know what's going on. Every layer is on, thawed, etc. They show up in paper, but not in model. There are also invisible viewports in paper that I cannot make visible. You can click into the viewports and highlight the objects, but you cannot explode them or anything. Any help?

 

WWM03.dwg

[Dana W]

Don't give up, some of us are trying to figure it out. Did this drawing by chance originate from a non AutoDesk, non AutoCad program? If so, which one. The reason I ask is that it is behaving as if it were a dwg file export from Microstation. I can select the viewports with ctrl+A. They are not clipped. None of the FRAMEs sys variables affect them. None of the layers are off, frozen or locked.

 

All I have so far is a shrug. Sorry. Don't lose hope, this has happened to others. There are dozens of threads on this subject here on the forum, but none of their proposed solutions I have tried seem to do any good up to now. And then, there is the block issue. haven't even started investigating them yet.

 

All I can say about the blocks so far is that there are 3 of them, inserted in the SAME green circle in modelspace, yet none of them are visible in modelspace, and they will not chspase to paperspace.

 

Whoa. Lemmee go look at the ISO and 3D views, maybe that is where the blocks are.

[RobDraw]

Those blocks do not have a layer property. It looks like they are the victim of improper export, as Dana alluded to. Go back to the source of the file and ask them to export it again for you.

[Croweyes1121]

Not a possibility. We're not even sure where this file originated. It's entirely possible that it was created in another program. Well darn, I was hoping there'd be some way to open it in a different program (be it Microstation, Inventor, etc) and resave it properly somehow. Thanks, guys.

[RobDraw]

It's entirely possible that it was created in another program.

 

It is not only a possibility, it is a fact. I saw references to Inventor.

 

Well darn, I was hoping there'd be some way to open it in a different program (be it Microstation, Inventor, etc) and resave it properly somehow. Thanks, guys.

 

No one has said that's not possible, yet. Also, I wouldn't give up. I've seen some people here fix the apparently impossible. Patience, don't give up, yet.

[Croweyes1121]

Interesting information about Inventor. I wonder if it would be possible to open the file in Inventor then and re-save it in a way that AutoCAD would better understand.

[rkent]

Go to the insert command, insert each of those blocks in model space, create a new layout and delete the old one.

[Dana W]

Go to the insert command, insert each of those blocks in model space, create a new layout and delete the old one.

Well, there is that, but we'll miss all the fun of wasting our time trying to fix weird things that AutoCad doesn't even know are broken.

 

Strange, I can select the blocks, and move them to a layer but there is still no layer info in properties.

[profcad]

This is an inventor DWG file. To get a true AutoCAD DWG file, it must be exported from Inventor as an AutoCAD file.

[Andrew1979]

I have seen some things done like this using a program called ZW CAD. It has the ability to lock down a drawing so there is no way to extract anything from it even.

[profcad]

It's an Inventor AutoCAD DWG file. See attached images from Inventor and AutoCAD.

Edited January 1, 2016 by profcad
too many images.