Insert block / Paper Space vs Model Space inserted?

[ILoveMadoka]

All things being equal....

If I have a block that contains both entities in Paper Space and entities that are in Model Space
and I insert this block into a virgin drawing using CLASSICINSERT..
Are you inserting the MS entities or the PS entities?

[ILoveMadoka]

Part two:

What if I only want to insert what is contained in PS?

 

I am working on a routine to insert every drawing in a older into the current drawing using classicinsert.
There can be 20-30-40 drawings in that are being inserted.

Edited February 24 by ILoveMadoka

[CyberAngel]

On 2/24/2025 at 12:21 PM, ILoveMadoka said:

All things being equal....

If I have a block that contains both entities in Paper Space and entities that are in Model Space
and I insert this block into a virgin drawing using CLASSICINSERT..
Are you inserting the MS entities or the PS entities?

When you define a block, you're in a different space called the Block Editor. It's neither paper space nor model space, it's somewhere else. So it can't include objects in paper space and model space at the same time. Wherever you insert the block, that's where the objects inside it will go.

 

If you have such a block, then I stand corrected. But I don't understand how it could be created.

[ILoveMadoka]

Come from the other angle...

 

I have multiple existing drawings. (Not created as blocks)

These drawings all have PS & MS entities.

Any drawing can  be inserted into another dwg as a block/wblock

 

I want to insert all of these dwgs into a "master" drawing.

When you insert one of "those type" drawings into a new dwg which "space" are you inserting? PS or MS?

If I have to go into every dwg and do a CHGSPACE to merge into a single space, 

I'm open to that but, which way do you go? PS into MS or MS into PS??

 

For illustration, a drawing has 3 tabs/layouts, each tab has a title block and some notes

all the geometry shown in each tab/layout is in MS.
I have 15 similar dwgs.

I want to insert all the dwgs and their respective layouts/viewports/geometry into a single drawing.

Does that clarify it a bit more?

 

Or alternatively, say each dwg has 1 layout with a Title block in PS but the drawing entities are located in MS.
Multiple dwgs like that, I want to insert each dwg into a master dwg)

..and thank you!

 

Edited March 7 by ILoveMadoka

[CyberAngel]

When you insert one drawing into another, whether it's a block or an xref, you bring in everything in model space. The layouts do not come along for the ride. However (i just learned this), you can transfer layouts from one drawing to another using the Design Center. You can also (I just learned this too) right-click on a blank layout, select From Template, and give it a layout from a different (open) drawing.

 

You could write a script or an AutoLISP function to do the same thing, but with only 15 drawings, it would probably be quicker to do it by hand. A hundred drawings would be a different story. If you're a LISP whiz, you might consider the function.

[BIGAL]

Why not just set up a DWT with all these objects already available. Thats what a DWT is for. You can set Options Files Template location so when you do NEWyou will see your dwt's to choose from.