Aluminum composite panels parametric templates

[emosms]

Hi,

I am struggling to make this parametric template work.
It is always 1 constrain short of making it behave properly.
F.ex. in the curent hair pull-off session I can't make the crossed lines stay parallel/ horizontal, the mitre angle lock at 45 degree, the parallel tilted blue lines stay equal or whatever needed to prevent skewing.

Somehow I made 1 face and 2 face panel template work properly (it allready was a pain to make the two face and I dont know how I made it work)
But I need also 3, 4, 5 face panels, also a corner panel.

The problems come when I try to control the innermost side flanges (where the 45 degree miters are).
If they are not equal,the sketch skews, but they might not be equal in some occasions.

 

What is the correct order of applying dimensions and constrains?
I know the geometry I am trying to force is completely legit (I can draw it manualy) but that is not the point, it is extremely tedious and boring when a lot of panels need to be done.
Can I find ready parametric templates for this?
The constraints interaction seems to make the task impossible.

 

Regards - Emil

[SLW210]

Welcome to CADTutor!

 

Can you post a .dwg?

[emosms]

Hi, the 1 and 2 face templates work.
The 3 face templates are squared in yellow, one is parametric sketch, the other is a dynamic block, completely messed up now.

Seems easier to apply strech action in a dynamic block but I still have to apply TONS of constraints (coincident points, parallel...)
I understood I can mass apply them with AUTOCONSTRAIN, but still needs a lot of adjustment and clean up.

At least didn't reach the "overconstrained" warining within a dynamic block.

PARAMETRIC.dwg

[BIGAL]

Must it be a dynamic block ? Have a look at this video. 

 

 

 

 

[emosms]

Made parametric sketches and blocks for 1, 2, 3 face panels.
Parametric definitions appear as block properties and could be set there along with label tags (detail name and pieces).

I spent the whole morning (setting the correct order of constraints) and I didnt come to a clear order how to do that.
Autoconstrain does not take into account the constraintsettings dialog.

- f.ex. I started mass applying 'coincident'. It applied a lot of other constraints, then I deleted them.
- second (if I remember properly) I applied the 45 degree miter locks
- then I started moving the inner most flanges (along the miters) with a strech command to see what is going on.
- then I applied collinear to all simultaneously moving vertical lines.
- then I applied parallel to lock them parallel
- added here and there some perpendicular
- finally I added horizontal constraint to the bottom horizontal line 
(now I have to make a new sketch/ block for the same panels if they are rotated 90 degree)
- finally finnaly some extra constraints here and there after testing....

 

I HOPE IT WONT BREAK, but I am gonna need another free half a day to make 4, 5 face and corner templates.... 

PARAMETRIC.dwg

[BIGAL]

Again no problems drawing what you want can be multiple panels with options but will be p/line objects, some blocks, dimensions and so on, just not one complete block. Can embed details of the panels as say Xdata can then extract that data into a BOQ. The only real limit in number of panel details is the size of the pc screen, it limits to about 20 lines. Can just auto fill a panel details and for each new panel just change say required values. So say witdth would be the same every time auto filled. Could do a Equal option for number of panels so only fill in one panel sizes. Did notice the little side line work yes can be included.

 

Did you look at movie ?