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    RobDraw: Thanks much for all your insights. I will definitely look into your recommendation of Draftsight!

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    TheCADnoob: Thanks for that information. Are you aware of the names of "some free programs which charge for commercial use"? I do make my living as a woodworker, but I have a simple, low volume, one-man shop, and use my AutoCAD on a very limited basis.

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    That guide is there for newbies who have never used any CAD program before.

    "Excellent English speaking customer service" Why would this be a requirement? Do you plan on needing someone to hold your hand? These clones are created to read and write to the DWG file format and mimic as closely as possible native AutoCAD commands without appearing to be a blatant copy. In any version though a line will be a line just like in AutoCAD, a circle will still be a circle defined by its radius or diameter and text will still be text. Both programs have online user forums similar to the AutoDesk Discussion Groups. Details about product support for either should be readily available online.

    Bricscad, because it is sold and not given away, does have a yearly subscription which gives the user access to priority support and to the next major release. Since Draftsight is free there is no subscription thus no support per se other than that offered via their forum.

    I think you are getting too hung up on minutiae at this point for someone who states they currently use AutoCAD on a very limited basis. How well do you know the program? How much have you forgotten in all this time?
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    AutoCAD used to come with a book that was like 2" thick. I'm thinking that no matter what you choose, there is going to be a learning curve. There are lots of new fun things to learn since you've been gone.
    Drafting is a breeze.

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    ReMark: Thanks for the quick answer and the excellent information, but no need to be snarky with your totally unnecessary comment, "Do you plan on needing someone to hold your hand?" I simply like to know that after I've spent a chunk of money on new software, should the need arise, that excellent customer service is available. As an American, I'm sick and tired of dealing with all the companies that have shipped their customer services bases overseas and manned them with people who do not have a command of our language, especially when it comes to technical information. They may very well be able to speak English, but I've found few who understand the many nuances of the language and who truly have the ability to communicate well.
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    RobDraw: Thanks for your reply!

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    What kind of technical information would you be seeking?

    Maybe you should visit the website of both companies before passing judgement. Note that Bricscad ONLY offers support in English although it is produced by a Belgium company (Bricsys).

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    RobDraw: Thanks for your reply!
    I wouldn't have posted it, if that comment about people from Connecticut came before my response.
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    Dassault Systemes is the maker of Solidworks one of the best MCAD programs in the world and has a support network here in the U.S. and around the world that rivals that of AutoDesk and Bentley. Now if I had recommended Zwcad (Chinese) or nanoCAD (Russian) then I could see why you would be prone to xenophobia.

    Draftsight support options can be found here...http://www.3ds.com/products-services...port-services/
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    ReMark: Good grief, I'm not being (in your words) judgmental. Why are so many Americans so PC about being Americans and needing/wanting to speak and communicate well, in English? BTW, yea! for BricsCAD obviously a "proud to be American" company. If we Americans don't pay attention and support the companies who keep their businesses (and jobs) within our country's borders, there will be more and more young American people and college graduates who can not find jobs!
    Anyway, thanks for the information.

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