nocturne00 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Who thinks w/c of w/c is better? stick with metal w/c is shipped w/ 3ds or go with Vray googled about this and they get a 50-50 score, sometimes VRay gets higher but bottom line is they can produce the same rendering quality(from what i read) only mental ray needs to be toggled more here and there in its settings to get a "real" real look. Any Pros and Cons also greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I've used both and I don't really see any major differences in render quality in one or the other. Yes Vray is a bit more user friendly, but they both get the job done and can produce extremely high quality renders. I stick with Mental Ray though because it ships with Max, so I don't have to pay extra for Vray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturne00 Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 same thoughts here, why spend more if you already have it. I started out with mental ray w/c rendered pretty good with just some novice settings on materials, then I saw some VRay renders w/c are a bit jaw dropping, then again they mention that mental ray can also achieve it, then again they wont teach it lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Mental Ray is a very complex rendering engine. If you want to master it, I would suggest getting a book, or some DVD training. I can recommend THIS book. Also, the books from 3DATS are great. I have the one for Max 8. There are also some great DVD titles at Digital Tutors. I have the "Mental Ray Tips and Tricks" DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturne00 Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Thanks for the references. mental ray is really complex to need lots of books on how to use it. but then again, the rewards are priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I have used both mental ray and vray on max8 before. Here was my comments. Mental Ray Cost : FOC Rendering Speed : Slow Outcome : Realistic VRay Cost : I can buy another max8 (If you compare with the pricing 4 years ago. I think now only cost you 500~700USD) Rendering Speed : Fast Outcome : Realistic What Vray can render Mental Ray can be done too. Just the matter of time.:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturne00 Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 thanks for the hint, mental ray does take some time to render, but then again I dont have Vray yet to compare it with . im trying to acquire a demo copy of vray ATM, whilst browsing I ran into a vray's latest devlopment, the VRAY RT i think, its something im trying to check right now if its worth the buck, it cost around $599, then a promotional price of $299,, shheeesshh. why didnt they just price it 299 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuccaro Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes, it would be nice to have the price at $299 and the promotion around 149 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Vray is faster than Mental Ray? I keep hearing people say that, all the time, but nobody ever provides any numbers to substantiate that claim. It seems to me that it's all just personal opinion. If you learn Mental Ray and then try Vray, you're going to say MR is much faster, because you know MR much better and you know how to get the engine to perform. On the other hand, if you learn Vray and then try MR, you're going to say Vray is faster, for the same reason. I don't believe that one is faster than the other. I think, if you learn how to tweak the settings, you can get the same speed from either one. I stick with MR, because it ships with Max, and I've been using it for several years so I feel comfortable with it. I don't feel that it's slow at all, but it does have quite a learning curve, so newbies beware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hie Cad64, I'm Mental Ray user and I had try Vray free version from chaos group 4 years ago. With same model and setup only different render engine. But still honestly to say Vray was much more faster than Mental Ray. And I'm agree with Cad64. If you choose Vray you have to learn all those material applying (setting etc) & rendering setup again. Here was the link to vray http://www.chaosgroup.com/en/2/index.html Please register yourself to download the v-ray. I didn't know whether was free permanent version or free trial. Cause they v-ray wasn't support my older version Max9. I will try dig out my old tutorial from my house and post to here. (Can't promise whether I still have it or nope cause already 4 years + I never touch it) Then you guy only used MR & VR render see whats the different. From my previous experiment rendering a same model. Mental Ray took 8 minutes V-Ray took 1.5 minutes. This was the result of 4 years ago max8. So it may be changes for latest version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Alright, I'm going to try Vray again. It's hard for me to believe that Vray can render 80% faster than MR, but I'll run some tests this weekend and post the results here. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Hie Guy! Sorry for the late. Here was all those Vray tutorial I'm having. Hope can help you all. 003-1.pdf 003-2.pdf vray_hdri.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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