ReMark Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 My company currently does not use annotative scaling. All dimensions and text are placed in a layout. What does your company do and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.mounir Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hi Also my company not used annotative scaling, we have many text and dimension style for Each scale and we put it model space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todouble22 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 My company doesn't use annotative scaling either.. We have different text styles set up such as small=1/16", big1/8, bigger=1/4. They also practice putting them all in model space and then doing all the plotting from there. i have fought with them about the benefit of paper space several times and slowly converting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankman Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hi Also my company not used annotative scaling, we have many text and dimension style for Each scale and we put it model space We don't use annotative scaling. All is done in model space like e.mounir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbucket Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 We dont use them either. All done in model space. Would be very tedious to make revisions and then change dims and text in paperspace. Much more efficient for me to do in one location on the fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevsmith Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I use annotative scaling, IN MODEL SPACE. Its really handy, saves me having to muck about setting text heights, dim scales and mleaders. Although I have sent some drawings to out glass suppliers. They cant seem to read the dimensions sometimes. It seems to be a random thing. I quite like them although our other draughtsman still prefers to 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hmmm...seems like I'm the only one so far who does his dimensioning in a layout. Mr. Steve, if I may prevail upon your experience. Let's say I have some multiline text, that is annotative, and I want it to appear in two viewports. What problems, if any, might I encounter? Let's say one viewport has a scale that is twice as large as the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 To the others who responded that they use different dimstyles and manage visibility with layers, doesn't this become a bit tedious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 We don't use Annotative dimensioing either. I spent a couple of weeks earlier this year studying about Annotation and how it could improve our company. We currently use script files which atuomatically sets our text heights and dimension styles for us. We note and Dimension drawings in model space and xref everything into sheet sets in layout. I thought the annatation was pretty cool but just not practicle for us in our office. Script files work much better for us at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 Sparky: Can I assume then that you do not make use of layouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chulse Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 We use it (all 2 of us here). We don't use dims often, but we do use Multi Leaders and block attributes/labels. Generally works well for us. We never add annotation to layouts - only in the model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 I did not mean to imply the use of annotative scaling in a layout only in model space as it should be. I'm trying to decide if going to annotative scaling has any real benefits for us. I was taught the method of dimensioning in a layout when I took my first 3D class at a local community college. Prior to that we drew everything in model space including notes and dimensions and "scaled" the drawing much as one would if drawing on the board. Thus we had to do some math to figure out, for example, what height to use for text so it would plot at the equivalent of 1/8". Many old timers will remember doing this early on with AutoCAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbucket Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 @Remark... I use dimscale macros and depending on the amount of detail, it can go very small, but then i can immediately go back to 1/4"=1'-0" for floor plans. In Paperspace I use viewports to scale, and if any revisions are needed, its all ready scaled properly. It just seems much faster than manually doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevsmith Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I'll need to get back to you on this subject tomorrow ReMark. I've left work for the day, but, I'm pretty sure that you can change the scale of the annotative object within the quick properties menu, (if you have it on) but let me test out the theory tomorrow and I will give you an answer. I think also F1 gives you a small demo of this but i could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 21, 2009 Author Share Posted December 21, 2009 mrbucket: Just what does a typical dimscale macro do? Does it adjust not only the scale but the visibilty of the object (freeze/thaw layer)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevsmith Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I just had another thought. Are you going to be setting up the annotative text in model or paperspace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevsmith Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I found this, Quality isn't to good, but the girl explains it pretty well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_0vQeZUgz8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipsophrenic Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 ReMark, you can assign more than one scale to a peice of text, and then have that peice of text show in different viewports at different sizes (i think) I'll get some more info together soon for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbucket Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 mrbucket: Just what does a typical dimscale macro do? Does it adjust not only the scale but the visibilty of the object (freeze/thaw layer)? For me, its very basic. It just mainly switches size and style. Now that Im thinking about it, I could create layers for each, or a combination for each size that would include visibility based on layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkent Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I place most of my MTEXT in MS using an annotative style. When I dim in MS I use annotative dims, but sometimes dims go in PS. Location depends on use of the drawing in the future, or during the project, etc. No one size fits all here, I use things where they make sense for that drawing, project, etc. As an example, placing dims on a 3D object in a non-ortho view, dims have to go in MS to show true size without mucking about with scaling to make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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