Dimensioning in paper space

[ORCA]

When dimensioning items within a viewport in paper space, some dimensions are ok but others seem to increase depending upon the viewport scale. Match properties will change the dimension but it will revert back to its original dimension. This could be disasterous.

Has anyone any ideas why this is happening? Is there a setting I am missing in the dimension style?

[ReMark]

It sounds like you are putting the dimensions in model space via the viewport in your layout.

[ORCA]

Thanks ReMark but the viewport is not active, and is frozen off. The strange thing is you can delete the dimension and redo it and it looks ok, but the next time you go into the drawing the dimension has changed.

[ReMark]

I almost exclusively dimension in my layout (paper space) rather than deal with doing so in model space and have never had a dimension change (increase or decrease) on me. Is your dimensioning associative? Are the viewports locked? Can you post a representative drawing?

[Dan911]

I almost exclusively dimension in my layout (paper space) rather than deal with doing so in model space and have never had a dimension change (increase or decrease) on me. Is your dimensioning associative? Are the viewports locked? Can you post a representative drawing?

 

I exclusively dimension in paper space also, but that's in 2D. I've been messing around in 3d and having a problem with dimensioning in paper space. I inserted 2 photos showing my problem.

 

The first photo shows the incorrect dimension, but with the measuring tool it shows the correct measurement.

 

 

The second phot shows the incorrect dimension, but before my second click with the measuring tool it shows the same incorrect measurement.

 

My dimension associate is check in my prefrences, and you can see in photo's I am in paperspace. I would appreciate any help with this, this 3d stuff is really frustrating

[ReMark]

Dan: You problem seems fairly simple to solve. Change from a conceptual or realistic visual style to a 2D wireframe and you'll get the correct dimensions.

[Dan911]

I tried changing the view to 2d wireframe, created a new layout and keep getting the same incorrect dimension results. This is sooooooooo fustrating.

 

Thanks for the quick reply ReMark,

 

Dan

[ReMark]

I dimension in paper space (layout) exclusively and the only time I run into a problem is if I am using a conceptual style as AutoCAD sometimes gets confused about a pick.

 

Did you try quitting out of the drawing, closing down AutoCAD and then reloading AutoCAD and opening the drawing?

[Dan911]

Yes I did Remark, and I just did it again with a reboot on comp. The measuring tool is the correct measurement

 

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[ReMark]

"The measuring tool is the correct measurement"

 

You're referring to the Linear dimension command right? So everything is OK then right?

Edited November 7, 2010 by ReMark

[Dan911]

No, I'm referring to the measuring tool that was found on the inquire toolbar in older versions (measuregeom)command. That's what I find so fustrating, the inquire tool is giving the correct measurement and my Linear dimension isn't.

[ReMark]

I use the Distance command to check dimensions. I can't think of a reason why the "inquiry tool" returns the correct dimension but the dimension itself is wrong.

[Dan911]

Well if you can't think of a reason than I don't have a shot in figuring it out...lol It already cost me my Sunday trying to.

 

I realized the images I uploaded my be hard to see, so I uploaded another that my be easier see and prove I'm not nuts. I really appreciate your interest in helping.

 

Thanks again.

Dan

 

[rkent]

You will need DIMASSOC set to 2, check that and report back.

[Dan911]

DIMASSOC was set at 2

 

Thanks,

Dan

[ReMark]

You want to email me the drawing so I can see it with my own eyes?

[Dan911]

You want to email me the drawing so I can see it with my own eyes?

 

I know it's a stupid error on my part, but I can't figure it out. I appreciate your help.

 

I couldn't find a Email in your profile and the file was larger then the forum allows to attach, so I uploaded to rapidshare. If you prefer it in a email then PM me.

 

Thanks again,

Dan

 

http://rapidshare.com/files/429682882/Problem.dwg

[ReMark]

I fooled around with it for about 30 minutes and thought I figured it out when I got it to dimension 51" (4'-3") in the location the dimension showed as 2 1/8". Then I lost it on the next dim. Interesting problem though. I wanted to say it had something to do with the Overall Scale Factor as 51 divided by 2.125 = 24. 24 is the scale factor for 1/2"=1'-0".

 

Did you draw the object "to scale" in model space?

[Dan911]

Yes to scale, but not in model space, it was imported in from another program (Solid Manufacturing). I normally export as a 2d then clean it up in model space and dimension with my title block in paper space and never had a problem. "The cad in the program is weak and cannot compare to AutoCad"

Lately I been messing with 3d and exported that file from SM as a 3d. I probably should of mentioned that it's a polyface mesh, not that means anything to me.

Regardless... What I found so frustrating is the distance tool in AC gives the correct dimension but when I tried to dimension it it's incorrect.

Thanks once again for your time and help,

Dan

[ReMark]

Oh, so this was not done natively in AutoCAD. I see.

 

Agreed. Distance command gives correct dimension but the dimension itself is 1/24th of what it should be so there is a scale factor setting we have to find and reset.