kippax Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Drawing units = mm Block units = mm block diameter in editor = 100mm block diameter once inserted = approx 4mm why is its rescaling my block when I insert it ? Quote
Tyke Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Are you inserting a DWG as a block or an existing block that's already in your drawing? If its a DWG you're inserting check what units are set in the DWG you are inserting and the units in your drawing. With a factor of 25 (100 mm to 4 mm) it sounds a lot like a millimetres / inches problem. Quote
kippax Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 The block was created from existing elements within the drawing. They are correctly sized in the drawing and correctly sized within the block editor, but the minute i insert it as a block it's re-scaled by the factor of mm to inches ! Just noticed in block properties, the unit factor is 0.0394, but it wonrt let me edit this. Quote
Tyke Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Try redefining the block and make sure it is scaled uniformly when inserting it, and use a factor of 1. Make sure the units you are using in the drawing are the same as those when defining the block. Quote
Tyke Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I've just replicated your problem. Original drawing units are inches, units when defining the block are in millimetres. When you insert the block you get a factor of 0.0394, which you can't change. Quote
ReMark Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 The old mixing metric and imperial dilemma. Just spent an entire hour helping someone in Canada with the same problem. Seems she got a building plan from the U.K. and tried to plot it but the drawing was in metric and she was trying to plot it on a standard architectural E-size sheet (imperial units). She didn't understand why it was "out of scale". What's worse is she didn't know how to convert from metric to imperial. Yikes! Quote
kippax Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 OK ... I've found the solution..... but, When you create a block you are able to choose the units used upon insertion. Now even though the block was correctly sized in metric and the drawing itself was in metric, for whatever reason the "INSERTION" units were set at imperial. However, without creating the block all over again, how do I change the insertion units ? Quote
kippax Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 No I haven't because I've lost where I found how to change the insertion units during block creation now.... I'm going nuts here Quote
Tyke Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I don't think you can change the units of an existing block. But when you are defining the block in the block definition dialog, you have Properties on the lower left hand side of the dialog and underneath that you have a drop down list from which you select your units. OK the screen shot below is in a German version of AutoCAD, but you'll get the idea. Quote
ReMark Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Oh that screenshot brings back memories of my two years in German class. Hoch so sie lieben! Quote
Tyke Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Hi ReMark I'm a Brit who's moved over to Germany. Not quite sure why, was it for the beer, the women, or perhaps just to get away from that lousy English weather? It can be sometimes not quite straight forward here in the forum with all you guys talking of English commands and AutoCAD things when I work with just the German version of Civil 3D. Somewhere I have an English version of 2002, but I never use it. Quote
ReMark Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I've forgotten more German than I remember. My grandmother, who was born of German parents and spoke the language, used to criticize me for my pronunciation. She accused our German teacher of not teaching the "correct" German. I guess I'll have to get out my English-German dictionary for when I post from now on. LOL Quote
kippax Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 nope... I've not solved this. Tyke the screenshot you're showing there determines the units that the block is created in, which I've already got covered and correctly used mm. Somewhere is a box which allows me to adjust the units that the block is "inserted" at. This would appear to be set at "inches" as the block is being inserted with a Unit Factor of 0.04. I can't find anyway of editing or changing the unit factor. Quote
kippax Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 FOUND IT !!!! For sure now. Command: INSUNITS was set to 1: = Inches now set to 4: = mm Praise the Lord !!! Quote
ReMark Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 We knew you could do it on your own so we sat back and waited. Just think, you'll never forget that as long as you use AutoCAD to do your job. Quote
Tyke Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 ReMark said it all, you never forget what you solved yourself. Quote
kippax Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 The problem is, that because I don't use ACAD all day and every day as part of my job, I do tend to forget a lot of the solutions to problems, whether I find them on here or solve them myself. However, I will remember that I've solved it and that the answer will be on this forum, hence me posting the solution. I'm pretty sure that I'll be referring back to this thread on more than one occasion over the coming months ... Quote
ReMark Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Write the word INSUITS on a "sticky" and place it on the side of your monitor. Nothing like a visual hint to remind you. Quote
Tyke Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Write the word INSUITS on a "sticky" and place it on the side of your monitor. and if that doesn't work try using the word INSUNITS. Seriously, have you thought of a little book where you can write down all these really useful tips or a folder where you can keep the printouts you make of the tips? Quote
ReMark Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Have the word tatooed on your chest, backwards, and when you need to remember what it is you forgot, stand in front of a mirror and open your shirt. Quote
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