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Someone asked me yesterday if I could produce some drawings for their home to support a planning application.

 

Front, rear and plan of existing and proposed.

(Its a two storey extension to the rear)

 

Any tips. I'd rather 'Stand on the shoulders of Giants' :wink:

 

Surveying and getting sizes which you cant reach??:shock:

 

Any ideas on prices?8)

 

Any good websites/tutorials/info/guidance

 

Thanks in advance (again)

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Are you a practicing architect? generally, professional and accredited groups of architects registered in their respective countries(eg.US has A.I.A.) have their own manuals concerning professional practice rules and regulations, especially on how to charge clients for services rendered. its a good rescource of your inquiry on Price

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grain, do you have an idea?

 

I just read your architect quotation, and now this post.

 

Just lay the footprint out for the addition and get to work. Almost sounds as if you're complaining or, don't have a clue.

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grain, do you have an idea?

 

I just read your architect quotation, and now this post.

 

Just lay the footprint out for the addition and get to work. Almost sounds as if you're complaining or, don't have a clue.

 

 

Hi Tankman

 

Of course I have quite a few ideas but I would rather benifit from a bit of research to compliment my existing skills.:P

 

I am not a licensed Architect only a draughtsperson. But I understand that is fine for producing the drawings for a planning application.:)

 

Regard the quotation it has no relevance to this thread. Did you not find it interesting/inspiring thought provoing :o

 

Dont be so agressive in future its inhibiting :glare:

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I would contact your local jurisdiction and get the requirements for submittal, here in the states (Colorado to be exact) they usually want to see a site plan, full floor plan, showing existing and proposed. Elevations of all new const. framing plans, and in some cases demo plans. Each have there own requirements such as solar analysis for Boulder, Colorado. I would defiantly show in a dashed line where the demo is to take place to meet the new structure, if a site plan is needed you will need a surveyor come an survey the lot for you, for engineering you will defiantly need to get a structural engineer involved, which may need to stay under your wing as construction starts due to the unknown construction of the existing structure.

 

I will add more to the post when I get home. If you can add more specifics to your question it might be more helpfull for ones wanting to help.

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for a mere planning application in this country, you really don't need a full blown architect, though an appreciation of building regs will prevent lots of toing and froing with rejected proposals :wink:

 

Surveying? a tape or disto, and a staff are useful

 

Photographs are useful

 

Height can be calculated from measuring across several courses of bricks and multiplying up (assuming a brick construction) - otherwise photograph with the staff at the base of a wall and scale up in the office later (or Disto from the floor to gutter :wink: )

 

Make sure you're charging for a one off set of drawings to be produced in line with the client's design, else you'll be clobbered for the rework if it doesn't meet building regs or is rejected for another reason

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for a mere planning application in this country, you really don't need a full blown architect, though an appreciation of building regs will prevent lots of toing and froing with rejected proposals :wink:

 

Surveying? a tape or disto, and a staff are useful

 

Photographs are useful

 

Height can be calculated from measuring across several courses of bricks and multiplying up (assuming a brick construction) - otherwise photograph with the staff at the base of a wall and scale up in the office later (or Disto from the floor to gutter :wink: )

 

Make sure you're charging for a one off set of drawings to be produced in line with the client's design, else you'll be clobbered for the rework if it doesn't meet building regs or is rejected for another reason

 

Thanks Strix,

 

I found your post very helpful. I presume a staff is a 1M stick.

Does one have any liability when producing such drawings?

At what stage would you have to be a qualified architect? Working Drawings?

Are people using Autocad or Sketchup for such Planning applications?

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  • a staff is usually longer, but you may manage with a 1m
  • only architects are liable if they produce such drawings (but common sense would dictate you stick to draughting and let the client say what's going where if you're not up to speed on building regs yourself - just saves getting into messy situations)
  • you don't HAVE to have a qualified architect to do your drawings at all - so long as they meet full regs when the detail drawings are produced
  • You can use a crayon and a sheet of wallpaper to do your drawings - so long as you accurately convey what it's going to look like when it's finished

 

have a look at your council's planning portal for examples of work submitted recently. Don't include TOO much detail, firstly because it'll take more time and thereby eat into the profitability of the job for you, and secondly because it builds in a lack of flexibility with detail design at a later date

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  • a staff is usually longer, but you may manage with a 1m

Leica sell one through Screwfix for £47

 

  • only architects are liable if they produce such drawings (but common sense would dictate you stick to draughting and let the client say what's going where if you're not up to speed on building regs yourself - just saves getting into messy situations)

  • you don't HAVE to have a qualified architect to do your drawings at all - so long as they meet full regs when the detail drawings are produced

This is (good) news to me. I thought you have to be a member of the RIBA

  • You can use a crayon and a sheet of wallpaper to do your drawings - so long as you accurately convey what it's going to look like when it's finished

How refreshing that would be. Reminds me of someone saying a bank is legally obliged to accept a cheque written on the side of a cow.

 

 

have a look at your council's planning portal for examples of work submitted recently. Don't include TOO much detail, firstly because it'll take more time and thereby eat into the profitability of the job for you, and secondly because it builds in a lack of flexibility with detail design at a later date

 

I have a first meeting this weekend I let the thread know how it progresses.

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