nestly Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Here's one that's much simpler (without any tracking). In Plan view (top view) create a BOX, mirror it along one of it's edges, then create a Drawing View. Now delete the Drawing View, delete the mirrored box, then re-mirror the Box exactly as you had the first time, and re-create the Drawing View. *edit* I should clarify that a requirement of the 2nd video is that 3DOsnaps must be active, but not so in the 1st. Edited December 3, 2014 by nestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 At this point it almost seems you are taking pains to break it. Are you into destructive engineering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzza Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Here's one that's much simpler (without any tracking). In Plan view (top view) create a BOX, mirror it along one of it's edges, then create a Drawing View. Now delete the Drawing View, delete the mirrored box, then re-mirror the Box exactly as you had the first time, and re-create the Drawing View. *edit* I should clarify that a requirement of the 2nd video is that 3DOsnaps must be active, but not so in the 1st. I havn't managed to replicate at home on 2014, I will try when back in work tomorrow on 2015. Can you test to see if turning the layer off an on again lets you select the first dim line after it has 'failed' once? At this point it almost seems you are taking pains to break it. Are you into destructive engineering? Have you managed to replicate from the videos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nestly Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 At this point it almost seems you are taking pains to break it. Are you into destructive engineering? On the contrary, I'd never encountered this particular issue prior to this thread. I merely looked at the OP's illustrations, and while attempting to create something similar using channels and angles, I immediately experienced what the OP described. I do admit to exerting more effort than I should have to figure out the particulars of "why" it happens. As I said, different workflows. MIRROR, Tracking, and 3DOsnaps are commands and tools in my normal 3D modeling, and those are the only 3 that are needed to break VIEWBASE (in this case) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 AutoCAD.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nestly Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 AutoCAD.......... put that on your hook.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nestly Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I havn't managed to replicate at home on 2014, I will try when back in work tomorrow on 2015. Can you test to see if turning the layer off an on again lets you select the first dim line after it has 'failed' once? I see the same behavior in 2014... toggling layers on/off does not seem to have any affect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Google "Revit Bugs"... put that on your hook.... Google Search shows far less finds than AutoCAD. Either way, at least I can mirror without issues, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nestly Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Either way, at least I can mirror without issues, haha. ... so can ReMark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 ... so can ReMark okay you have me there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 At this point I'm going to just chalk it up to workflows. I'm truly surprised and sorry to hear that others are experiencing problems using ViewBase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nestly Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I submitted a Support Request / Bug report.... I suspect they'll acknowledge it and suggest something like using OSNAPZ=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 More likely they'll say if it's broke don't use it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzza Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 hmm so I have some across the problem today in a new drawing. I have done a panel with 24 valves on, copied this 5 times and removed some valves off each panel. I managed to DIM all but the first copied panels fine, that one is showing the same behavior. I did NOT use the mirror command at all in this drawing, I did however use the object snap tracking. I tried to close the drawing down to reopen but CAD crashed with a fatal error. Good job I saved just before closing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'd like to take a crack at one of your drawings (or part of one of your drawings) but you seem reluctant to share. I'll ask one last time. Please attach a sample drawing that exhibits the behavior you have documented thus far. If none is forthcoming I'll have to end my participation in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzza Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I can attach this one no problem. give me 5 mins to sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I can wait. Did you ever test the drawing I attached way back in post #9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nestly Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Yes, post a sample drawing. Just to be clear, I don't necessarily think the problem is caused by MIRROR command, rather Drawing Views can become corrupt and loose (at least partially) their association with the model objects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Well stated nestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzza Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I can wait. Did you ever test the drawing I attached way back in post #9? The uploader failed multiple times so here is a drop box link.. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/119032570/BuzzaVB.dwg The valves are blocks from the manufacturer (Swagelok). I did the biggest panel first then copied upwards and then to the right. It was the first copied one I couldn't DIM. Since reloading CAD though it has been working fine, give it an hour or so and it will stop. I did try your drawing. It worked. I am thinking it might be to do with the health / spec of my machine not being able to handle the content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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