Siberian Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 A company we're doing a job for require me to place elements that represent voids through walls and slabs where pipes/ducts pass through so that these are displayed in the IFC model. Openings often vary in size and shape, so how would I go about achieving this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just create a simple family. Here's my "wall opening" family. It's instance based and has 12" clearance zone on both sides of the openings front and back in a transparent red color to indicate a no-fly zone. It's a Duct Accessory. Simple, works well. I'll upload if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 I also concluded that family creation was the way to go. I've been working on something similar to yours the last couple of hours. As it's my first family design it's a bit try and fail, but I'm getting there. I went for a tube shape but I'll probably need a rectangular one as well. My latest issue is that I'm not able to rotate my "opening" to horizontal so I can use it with walls. It only wants to remain vertical. I get the error "Can't rotate element into this position." Do you have any idea why that could be? If you could upload it I would be grateful - maybe I can do some reverse engineering I see you got the title CAD Mentor with the new forum design. You're absolutely a mentor to me. Thanks as always! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Here you go. Glad to help! Duct Opening.rfa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 That's nice. Using it I found out why my own tube version didn't want to rotate. Thanks again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Also, check out this post and blog. This explains Family Fundamentals in a good analogy for when you're getting familiar with the Content Environment: http://revitoped.blogspot.com/2009/04/family-editor-bones-muscle-skin.html Steve's Blog is superb. Lots of years of good info logged into that blog, especially with Family stuff. -TZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 I'll bookmark that blog. It's bound to come in handy. Regarding the openings - one thing I'm trying to achieve with them is that when I put them inside a wall or slab, it will cut into it so that you can see through it. I might be expecting too much from it? The family properties of my tube opening has a check box that says "Cut with Voids When Loaded". I tried toying with it, but haven't made it work like that. Also there is the option of solid vs. void that I'm not sure which is right for me. Am I one the right track? Or it's maybe not possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 It's doable, but I wouldn't recommend it. The reason why is because you'll have to edit the actual architectural file itself, which isn't a problem in and of itself but this would get overridden when an update came through. Now, you did mention that a company is requiring you to do so. If this is the case, you need to have access to their architectural Revit model and place the openings yourself, and I doubt that's going to happen. Ultimately if you just want a literal opening, just use the Wall Opening tool found on the Architecture Ribbon: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, tzframpton said: Now, you did mention that a company is requiring you to do so. They require me to create some element that represents a void, but they didn't clearly state that it needs to be "see through" quality - I just assumed so once I heard it. But considering the reasons you mentioned I guess that's not the case - which makes my life easier Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzframpton Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Siberian said: They require me to create some element that represents a void, but they didn't clearly state that it needs to be "see through" quality - I just assumed so once I heard it. But considering the reasons you mentioned I guess that's not the case - which makes my life easier Thanks! I think they're wanting something similar to the Family I uploaded. That way they can run a coordination report against something, which is impossible if there is an actual voided opening. The Family I uploaded represents an opening, which is what you want, rather than an actual opening. I do this on about every project. -TZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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