Fake Annotation Scale in Overall View

[resullins]

Ok... this is a bit of a weird one, so forgive me. We work with large building files (think... stadiums and arenas), and we do audio/video drawings. So we have, say, an overall FP of the entire level, with all of our devices and conduits tagged, at say, 1/32" scale. However, we ALSO have to show individual quadrants or areas of the buildings on pages at say, 1/8" scale. 

 

Previously, in AutoCAD, we would tag everything so that they show up the "correct" size in the 1/8" scale, for the quadrant views. Then for the overall views, I would force the annotation scale of the viewport to be 1/8" scale while the standard scale was 1/32". Yes, this made the tags appear very small in the overall views, but it meant that we didn't have to touch every tag twice. And since it's only the guys in the field using tablets and PDFs to zoom in and look at the overall views, it was fine that the tags had like .0325" text... we weren't relying on prints here. 

 

I can't figure out how to replicate this process in Revit. All tags are inherently annotative, so I can't make them stay a fixed size, and I can't force the viewport to display them at a scale that's different from the view scale. 

 

Is this possible? Because the old dudes at my company are SO incredibly insistent that we get these overall views into the package that they're currently threatening to make me pull all of the views OUT of Revit just to do the overall pages in AutoCAD. I can't explain to them that that particular process will literally push me over the last thread of sanity I remain clinging to. 

 

Is there a way to do this? Literally anything? Bueller? Please help. I'm already at 80 hours a frigging week just to fix this mess of a project... I can't touch everything twice. 

[CyberAngel]

This article may help if you're using electrical families. If you're using a lot of families, it may be time prohibitive to change them all. This hack may not do what you want. But it's something.

 

Caveat: I started learning Revit a few years ago but switched jobs before it went very far. I'm no expert.

[resullins]

2 minutes ago, CyberAngel said:

This article may help if you're using electrical families. If you're using a lot of families, it may be time prohibitive to change them all. This hack may not do what you want. But it's something.

 

Caveat: I started learning Revit a few years ago but switched jobs before it went very far. I'm no expert.

Yeah, that's not quite what I'm looking for... since that changes how the object itself is displayed... but I appreciate the effort. I'm about 95% sure what I want isn't possible. But no one seems to be able to give me a definitive answer. Seems to be the way with Revit. 

[tzframpton]

On 8/31/2022 at 11:29 PM, resullins said:

Is this possible? 

It is not possible by the approach you're trying to take. All you really have to do is take your parent view that is your Partial Views and simply print "Fit to Page" in the Zoom option of the print settings dialog. Let me give you an example:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/guhg2t2sddizrsh/AACQU0Q30Ickymq_ivCKwOZQa?dl=0

 

Not sure if that link will work as I never share using Dropbox anymore but let me know. So on the multi page PDF, that is the actual shop drawing that went out, so you have the overall with equipment tags only, then the partial plans of each area. The other PDF is simply the parent view of the partial plans printed with "Fit to Page" to a 42x30 sized PDF, so everything scales down. Sure if you print this page you can barely read the text, but zooming in on an iPad is fine. 

 

Hope this helps.