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@HypnoS if your using title blocks then it is possible to detect the name of the title block and use the correct plot settings, for example a A4 in landscape or portrait mode. Just using say layout extents can return wrong answers as even where I worked there was occasional junk in a layout outside of the title block.

If you use Al Roger's old Lisp code to draw structural shapes (STL.LSP), I have replaced his old 9th Edition AISC shapes with the latest 16th edition shapes. I left his data for the Metric shapes alone since I did not have a source for the dimensions. His Lisp routine reads several DIM files that contain the shape data and I have not touched it. I just replaced his old DIM files with new ones. When I did the DIM files for the 13th edition of AISC, I kept Al's old data and appended a 9th on the end of the shape name and the 13th edition was added onto the end of the data. IIRC, the AISC has a spreadsheet with very old profiles for steel shapes from the late 1800's and the motivated user could add the old shapes at the end of the DIM files. The 16th edition of the AISC shape data includes many new rolled sizes. In order to use the Lisp, you have to unzip the package into a folder in your search path where it loads your LSP files and all the DIM files must be in the same folder so his program can find them along with the help file. I tested the program out on my 2024 version of ACAD and have used it on all prior ACAD versions that I've used for many years. For new users, after you Load the Lisp, you just type STL and his dialog window pops up and you select the shape and size and the 2D End, 2D Top, 2D Side, 3D Sold, or 3D Surface, and the Lisp will draw the shape. I'm a Structural Engineer and use STL to draw the shapes to see if the shape is too close to the anchor bolts on my base plate design. I don't do much drafting and not much Lisp, so I am in awe of the talent that came up with this code. I just occasionally edit the DIM files so it can draw new shapes. Edit--Edit-- I found an error in the Stl_Tube.DIM file and it was corrected with the revised ZIP below. I also edited the DCL file to change the Label for Tubes to HSS which is what the AISC now calls them. I found another error in the LSP code with a divide by 2 producing errors (it should have been /2.0) ) HTH Al's Steel Mill 2023_R1.zip

I did see where ActCAD was on release 14.1 and would expect that may be the case with CMS. CMS released 14 about 1 year ago, so maybe the latest updates may come here shortly. Some of the prices to join the IntelliCAD consortium see a bit steep, you would have to sell a lot of seats to get your fee and cover your own cost to create a program and break even much less a profit. Kudos to the companies having a good price. It seems Carlson Survey, Leica, and some others are on IntelliCAD. I'll try to start in the coming days doing a little dabbling and comparing. I plan to actually do real testing and maybe a Pro/Con review, I'll see how my time goes.

Oh cool! I think down stream members are still on 14.1. I’ll have to kick the tires on CMS, or maybe ACTCAD once the update. I have not seen C++ SDKs for ACTCAD\ CMS uses the same version numbers

They look very promising for a CAD alternative that can be upgraded with LISP, et al. I believe there is a list of CAD products that use IntelliCAD on their website. IntelliCAD® Technology Consortium: The intelligent alternative for CAD developers Here is the latest IntelliCAD update, though it would be nice to know which update the CAD Packages are using, maybe can be found on the individual websites. IntelliCAD 15.0 Release Details

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Hi, I use this dynamic plate block placa base_1.dwg PLACA BASE 2013.dwg