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Dear colleague, NO, I don't have any problem with making a helical hand rail along the circumference of a spiral stairway (or helical stair stringer)! My only problem is that the method which gives the best visual results (viz. extrude or sweep circle or region along spline) will give a "HEAVY" solid model that HINDERS the performance of AUTOCAD. Therefore I mostly use the extrusion along a 3D-polyline that gives a a lighter model but less nice visual results (especially when using flatshot for 2D model "representation"). Can I set some system parameters that increase the performance when extrude or sweep along a spline ? Standard I use a lot of blocks to increase the 3D perfomance of AUTOCAD, this however is not possible when a visual continuous hand rail is preferred. Thanks ! Easycaff