Cad Monkey 2 Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Try deleting unused layer filters. AutoCAD may ask you if you want to delete them when you start up or open the layer manager. I kept ignoring it, but once I did it there was a world of difference. Quote
Grant Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 In my experience with these things - the Antivirus software is usually the problem (Norton is good but also slows things down)- try disabling it (while you are off the internet!) and see if this helps. Note Norton is hard to disable as you may think you have disabled it but there may still be things in the background, check Task Manager. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 I gotta ask an obvious question or two....how long has it been since you actually rebooted the machine you're talking about? If it's been a long time, try that. Also, are you by chance running Outlook as your email program? I have found it to be a tremendous memory hog. If so, try closing it and see if the problem persists. I can run Autocad, Revit, Word, Excel and IE all at the same time, and be watching a video on one monitor while drawing on the other and not have any lag (and my Norton antivirus, of course). If I run Autocad and Outlook at the same time, Autocad will drag its backside. As someone else said, your experience may vary, but it happens on this machine every time. Your graphics card is very important to Autocad. If you imagine your computer as a bottle, your RAM is the body of the bottle, your graphics card is the neck of the bottle. The bigger the neck, the faster the contents of the bottle will empty on to your screen. I don't recall if you said you were running XP, Vista or 7, but if you bought your computer at one of the big chain stores, you probably have all the foo-foo programs and services that come with the average computer all running in the background, many of which you will hardly if ever use. I take it from the previous conversation that you aren't really all that familiar with how to stop the unecessary processes, so I'd recommend that you find a local geek and get him or her to help you with that. You'll be absolutely amazed at the difference in performance you'll see. Stuff like Weatherbug and all that make for a really neat presentation at the store, but really drag down the performance when running graphics intensive programs. Quote
gigi11 Posted November 8, 2010 Author Posted November 8, 2010 For some reason I have a feeling the problem may be caused by some background programs that came with the laptop. I don't know what to delete because there is so much unnecessary cr@p they put into laptops nowadays it's not even funny and I dont wanna delete something important. I heard Norton is a memory hog and that it causes problems with other programs. I tried turning off Norton, and although performance improved, it improved VERY little. This problem is just happening when I'm drawing lines though. And it's annoying because with the drawing that I need to do there's a lot of lines I need to draw! How do i delete layer filters? P.s I dont have outlook or don't plan on using it. My laptop has been rebooted, I just bought it like two weeks ago. It's a great laptop, it's not the laptop's fault. It has to be some background tool causing this problem OR some option turned on in Autocad. Quote
gigi11 Posted November 8, 2010 Author Posted November 8, 2010 search for REMOVE CRAPWARE and have fun I have a feeling that's not gonna work.... but thank you for the suggestion Quote
rkent Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 me either but you were the one complaining about it so there is the solution. search in here for 'speed up autocad' and go through that document, try everything. I know on my workstation at work that turning off all the bells and whistles in Win7 64 did make a difference. Quote
gigi11 Posted November 8, 2010 Author Posted November 8, 2010 me either but you were the one complaining about it so there is the solution. search in here for 'speed up autocad' and go through that document, try everything. I know on my workstation at work that turning off all the bells and whistles in Win7 64 did make a difference. Not complaining, more like wondering if that was the problem. Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 rkent wasn't just making idle chit-chat re: decrapify your computer. http://bucarotechelp.com/computers/winmaint/90060802.asp Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 rkent wasn't just making idle chit-chat re: decrapify your computer. http://bucarotechelp.com/computers/winmaint/90060802.asp Decrapify....that's a term i'd not heard before. I like it. Took a look at that website too...pretty cool stuff. Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 Decrapify Making sense of what politicians tell you. Quote
gigi11 Posted November 8, 2010 Author Posted November 8, 2010 Just did this also, removed some unnecessary things but it's still lagging when I need to draw things...I don't get it this has never happened to me with CAD. Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 So give us a run down of what steps you have taken so far to boost performance. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 Ok, lets try this....close everything running, all the way down to your desktop. If you have any fancy screen savers, desktop backgrounds or themes, reset everthing to none. Reboot it, and when it comes back up, start only autocad fresh using just the generic acad.dwt template that comes with it. if it still does it even at this stage, you got some other issue going on there that will probably require the services of a tech. Quote
ReMark Posted November 8, 2010 Posted November 8, 2010 I think the OP is being hobbled by the onboard GPU. One other possibility seldom thought of. In rare instances the motherboard is assembled with mixed speed RAM. One DIMM could be running at a lower speed than the other three. The computer will default to the speed of the slowest DIMM module. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) I think the OP is being hobbled by the onboard GPU. One other possibility seldom thought of. In rare instances the motherboard is assembled with mixed speed RAM. One DIMM could be running at a lower speed than the other three. The computer will default to the speed of the slowest DIMM module. That's why I suggested starting a fresh drawing with that generic template. If it doesn't do it then, it's not a software issue, it's all in the hardware. Like you, I suspect the GPU. It would never be noticed on stuff like microsoft office or IE, which is what most folks use a laptop for. Most laptops just don't have the legs to run in the CAD race, especially any 3d stuff. I also suggested the reboot early on because I've seen my daughter leave her laptop on and running for 2 weeks straight. Those stray bits of ram that get allocated, and then orphaned and never released begin to add up after a while. The best way to get them back is a reboot. Edited November 9, 2010 by Jack_O'neill spelling error (fingers outran my brain) Quote
gigi11 Posted November 9, 2010 Author Posted November 9, 2010 For some reason my post earlier didnt get posted. I disabled norton and although perfomance improved, it improved very little. I disabled the thing I was told to disable in CAD (although it was already disabled). I deleted the crapware lol The laptop is brand new, I restarted it cause usually that fixes things but still lagging! I started a fresh new autocad drawing (cause I thought all the layers or something in the drawing might be causing a problem) but that didn't help either. Funny thing is I opened that exact same drawing on my computer (not laptop which is where the drawing is lagging) and it worked perfectly fine. On my computer I have CAD2007 and on my laptop I have 2010. The laptop has about 8 times the amount of RAM my computer has, hard drive is about 3 times bigger, far better processor. So idk what's going on. It's extremely weird Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Funny thing is I opened that exact same drawing on my computer (not laptop which is where the drawing is lagging) and it worked perfectly fine. On my computer I have CAD2007 and on my laptop I have 2010. The laptop has about 8 times the amount of RAM my computer has, hard drive is about 3 times bigger, far better processor. So idk what's going on. It's extremely weird I'd bet my morning donut that the choke point is the "graphics processing unit" then. All the ram, harddrive and processor in the world won't make up for a lightweight graphics card. Remember my "neck of the bottle" analogy? Only so much will flow through it at a time. I could be wrong, but I really think that's where the problem is. Quote
gigi11 Posted November 9, 2010 Author Posted November 9, 2010 Has the drawing been Purged? I'm sorry I don't know what that means, can you explain it please? Quote
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