sbailey Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Hi all. I use autocad LT 2006 & 2010 to produce survey plans. I have all the linework in MS and the text and symbols in PS. I have a corner symbol comprising a circle hatched solid with color 255,255,255. So when viewed in PS we see the linework up to the circle, with the circle remaining "empty", ie no linework showing within the circle. The problem I have is 2 of my clients have HP plotters, and randomly the hatching in the symbols will print & sometimes not. Has anyone had similar issues? Does anyone know how to achieve the same result another way (without trimming the lines in MS)? Quote
nestly Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 One option would be to place a circular viewport at the same place as the symbol. Quote
Dana W Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Hi all. I use autocad LT 2006 & 2010 to produce survey plans. I have all the linework in MS and the text and symbols in PS. I have a corner symbol comprising a circle hatched solid with color 255,255,255. So when viewed in PS we see the linework up to the circle, with the circle remaining "empty", ie no linework showing within the circle. The problem I have is 2 of my clients have HP plotters, and randomly the hatching in the symbols will print & sometimes not. Has anyone had similar issues? Does anyone know how to achieve the same result another way (without trimming the lines in MS)? Color 255 is WHITE and only WHITE. It won't show on paper. Change it to some other color, or to color 7, which is the one that shows up white on a dark background or black on a light background. You will notice that there are two index colors that appear white. Whoever chose the color for that particular object picked the wrong one. When color 7 is selected, it will show up with the label 'white' in the object properties, or the layer color. Quote
SLW210 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Color 255 is WHITE and only WHITE. It won't show on paper. That's the problem, the OP does not want it to show on paper, yet it is on some plotters. Quote
Tiger Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Could it be a memory-issue with the printers? Some have larger memory-capacity and they can "see" the hatch - others have smaller memory-resources and ignore the hatch and just print the lines? Perhaps a wipeout could be used instead+ Quote
SLW210 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Could you send PDFs? Sounds like a plotter setting or driver issue. Do you know which HP plotters have the problem? Quote
Dana W Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 That's the problem, the OP does not want it to show on paper, yet it is on some plotters. Hmmmmm, I thought the problem was precisely the oposite. You are correct. Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Why not just put it on an non-printing layer? Wouldn't matter what color it was then. Quote
SunnyTurtle Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Could it be a memory-issue with the printers? Some have larger memory-capacity and they can "see" the hatch - others have smaller memory-resources and ignore the hatch and just print the lines? Perhaps a wipeout could be used instead+ I have had this problem becase of small printer memory/networking errors. The best solution is to get more memory on the printers I found wipeouts to be better but still sometimes, if you are using alot of them (or a very complex one) they still have problems. If worst comes to worst try a line hatch and make the line type thick so you can see through the gaps. (exploding this can help but make it hard to edit) Note: "Solid hatch take alot of printer memory for some reason" Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Guys, you're working way harder than you need to. If you have stuff you don't want to show up on paper, you can either put it on defpoints layer (which some people seem to be alergic to), or create a layer named anything you want it to be and click the printer icon indicated in the picture above. Put the stuff you don't want to show up on paper on that layer, and presto...it don't print. Quote
Tiger Posted February 22, 2012 Posted February 22, 2012 Jack, as I read the problem, the OP wants the circle to print as white beacuse it's suppose to cover some lines that would be visible otherwise. I can agree that there are possibly other ways to accomplish the desired result - but it doesn't change tha fact that the hatch prints on some printers and not on others. Either way, I think we need some feedback from the OP otherwise we're just going in circles (no pun intended...much) Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Jack, as I read the problem, the OP wants the circle to print as white beacuse it's suppose to cover some lines that would be visible otherwise. yes, i understand that. My point is to put the stuff that the OP is trying to cover up could be put on the non printing layer and there would be no need to cover it. They could forget the hatch and circle all together and could print it on any printer in the world. Quote
nestly Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Jack, he needs the symbol to serve as a wipe-out that masks the linework "under" the symbol.... think about how a text mask works. A text mask has a fill color the same color as the "background". The problem he's having is that the some printers "plot" the background color, which properly "masks" the linework, and some printers don't "plot" the background color, which allows the linework to run right through the symbol. Quote
SunnyTurtle Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 Jack, as I read the problem, the OP wants the circle to print as white beacuse it's suppose to cover some lines that would be visible otherwise. yes' date=' i understand that. My point is to put the stuff that the OP is trying to cover up could be put on the non printing layer and there would be no need to cover it. They could forget the hatch and circle all together and could print it on any printer in the world.[/quote'] ive attached some dwg's of what i think the op is trying to do. In this case ive draw a little bridge slab with some contoures under it. i want to hide the contoures that are under it but not to the side. ive repeated the process using different methods. I do not see how you could get this outcome by make the contours not print at all becasue you could not see them elseware WIP-HATCH.dwg Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Ok..now that I understand what we are trying to do...sorry for the confusion. I thought they were trying to use the circle and hatch to cover a PE stamp or something. Too much cold medicine last week. You can do that with a wipeout. First you'll need to create the "circle", except instead of a circle, use the polygon command to create a polygon with 500 sides. Make it whatever size you need it to be. It will look enough like a circle to fool most folks into thinking it actually is a circle. If it looks segmented then use 1000 sides. Then use the polygon option of the wipeout command to create the wipeout and turn the frame off if you don't want to see the "circle" or on if you do. You could even then put some text or a north arrow or whatever on top of the wipeout and create a block that includes the wipeout that you could insert anywhere you wished. Have it come in exploded so you can edit it if necessary. You'll need to turn the frame on to create the block, but you can always turn them back off once you get all them inserted where you want them. Quote
Organic Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Jack, as I read the problem, the OP wants the circle to print as white beacuse it's suppose to cover some lines that would be visible otherwise. That is it, frequently used to denote marking the boundary leg/int. etc. A block comprising a circle with solid hatch of colour 255,255,255 has always sufficed when I've seen it (and printed correctly). If it prints fine on your plotter I'd tell them the problem is not you it is their plotter. Quote
Organic Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 You can do that with a wipeout. First you'll need to create the "circle"' date=' except instead of a circle, use the polygon command to create a polygon with 500 sides. Make it whatever size you need it to be. It will look enough like a circle to fool most folks into thinking it actually is a circle. If it looks segmented then use 1000 sides. Then use the polygon option of the wipeout command to create the wipeout and turn the frame off if you don't want to see the "circle" or on if you do.[/quote'] Wipeouts always cause problems plotting for me (hence the 255,255,255 solid hatch work-around). Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 Well, if wipeouts won't print right, and the solid hatch won't print right, and putting the objects you wish to cover on a nonprinting layer is out of the question, then there's not much left to do that I know of. Plot the drawing, put a white sticky note over the area to cover and run it through a copier. Just hope the copier doesn't see the edges of the sticky note. Quote
nestly Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 While neither actually fix the problem, I'd probably go with Post #2 before I resorting to Post-It's and whiteout Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 While neither actually fix the problem, I'd probably go with Post #2 before I resorting to Post-It's and whiteout Oh!! I forgot about white out!! There's another option! Quote
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