aqther Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi everybody I've been using this forum for a while now. I am an autocad draftsman in joinery. In my current project I have to make a 3d model with lots of carving design. The table legs are made of wooden carving. I am attaching an image here to mean what i actually want to work out. Any ideas and suggestions are highly appreciated. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 No pun intended but I think you have your work cut out for you. I think this is not the type of project AutoCAD would excel in. Is it too late to change your project? I would suggest something along the lines of a Mission style buffet perhaps by Stickley or a highly detailed Eastlake black walnut lamp table with burl inlay and a marble top from the Victorian era. It's just a suggestion. For all I know you're an artist when it comes to AutoCAD as well as a craftsman. By the way, the detail pictured above, is it really done in wood or was in done in plaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 What are you creating this model for? Is it just for illustration or will you need to use it for prototyping? If it's just for illustration, using a program like ZBrush, you can create models like that very easily. Once the model is done, you can create a normal map and a displacement map and then export everything out for use in 3DS Max or Maya. But I wouldn't even attempt something like that in Autocad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqther Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 my friends, thats NOT an image I am actually working on. All my work files are in my office. This was just an example picture that i have put up. I will try to get the photos and put it here for a better idea. but my question is how to make such shapes in auto cad? i dont understand this thing. Cad64 thank you for your input. but i prefer just autocad and 3dsmax, thats it. Dont wanna try 3rd one. Ok here i found one similar image. Again this one is not the one i am currently working on. just for a reference i using this image here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'd still recommend not using AutoCAD for this type of project as it just isn't suited to the task. It would be like asking an apprentice sculptor to carve a replica of the statue of David using a chainsaw. He probably could rough it out but the fine detail would be missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqther Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi ReMark What would ya recommend for such type of work? BTW, I love your comp details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I'd still recommend not using AutoCAD for this type of project as it just isn't suited to the task. It would be like asking an apprentice sculptor to carve a replica of the statue of David using a chainsaw. He probably could rough it out but the fine detail would be missing. That's precisely why I recommended ZBrush. It's perfect for creating that fine detail very easily. Then it's a simple procedure to create the maps and export back into 3DS Max. But, if you prefer to stick with only Autocad and Max, then I would suggest using Max. As Remark stated, that detail will be nearly impossible to replicate in Autocad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqther Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hey Cad64 thanks again Aight then lemme have a look at Zbrush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 aqther: Listen...I'm strictly an AutoCAD user; 2D and 3D. But I deal mostly in structural steel and 3,000 gallon chemical mixing and storage tanks. These items are suited to AutoCAD because of their basic primitive shapes (circles, squares, angles, etc.). When you show pictures of what appear to be hand carved, freeflowing, details on furniture you are starting to leave the realm of AutoCAD. I think a program like Rhino3D could handle it but as far as other AutoDesk related programs I defer to those more knowledgeable than myself. You were the one that mentioned joinery yet what you choose to show here does not meet the definition of joinery as I understand it. Maybe you can educate me. I am familiar with these types of enhancements to furniture as I have several antiques in my house the most detailed of which is a minature Chinese Chippendale youth chair with ball and claw feet and an extensively pierced carved back. I also have a Mission style buffet done by Limbert (second only to Stickley) in the Arts and Crafts movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqther Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 I agree with u ReMark. It doesn't meet the definition of 'joinery'. But sometimes i need to do this kinda 3d models for my clients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Take a moment and visit the site in the link below. When you get there look in the upper left hand corner. Under the heading Media Type I want you to select 3D Models. In the box with the heading Search terms I want you to type Furniture. Then hit the GO button. When the next webpage comes up please take a look at some of the images. Notice that below each image is the name of the program used to create it. Page through the inventory and I am positive you'll find images that will catch your eye. Now, what are you waiting for? Click on- http://www.turbosquid.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 You might also want to search on the words "carved furniture". There is a real elaborate hand carved chair with lion head arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqther Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 Thank you very much my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Your welcomed. Good luck with your project. Maybe you can post back with some pics when it is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqther Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 sure i will this one was created when i was kinda new to my job, 1.5 yrs ago. modeling in auto cad and materials in 3ds max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 what you guys dont like a challenge? is the model just for reference or do you need to use it to transfer to a prototype? i think its do able, extremely difficult and if you are asking how to draw it probably out of your level(no offense meant by that). You would not only need to be very good at visualizing 3d curves of that model but you would also need to be very careful:). I think the general shape and design of the table legs wouldnt be too bad but that face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cad64 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 what you guys dont like a challenge? Challenges I like. Agonizing torture I don't like. Work smart, not hard and Use the right tool for the job Those are my words of wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shift1313 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 you mean like dont bring a knife to a gun fight:) im curious to see if it can be done. go for it:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqther Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 I think the general shape and design of the table legs wouldnt be too bad but that face! I know the 'face' is difficult but not the shape. So, that is my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I'm impressed. Thank you aqther for sharing that image with us. And anyone who would like to attempt the original "face" in AutoCAD I say go for it and show us what you can do. No cheating now. Must do it entirely in plain old AutoCAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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