martinle Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Hello! Please excuse the bad English. Google Translate translates for me - ha ha I'm trying to stretch a rectangle with handles. Running the following: 1) I create a rectangle from lower left to upper right. 2) Hold the Ctrl key and click with the left mouse button, a segment of the rectangle. Thus, all handles are activated. 3) I take a corner of the marked segment and can move it orthogonally. The other vertex is equal mitgestreckt. But now there is a square with each segment where it does not work. Here, the opposite point is much more stretched than the selected. Why is that? Is there maybe a system variable to change the behavior to change thus the element is stretched a right? Please help! Greetings MartinBeispiel strecken mit Griffen.dwg Quote
ReMark Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 I think the term you are looking for is "grips" not handles. You are stretching a rectangle using its grips and it is not uniform? Quote
martinle Posted May 26, 2013 Author Posted May 26, 2013 Remark Hello! Yes, exactly! I try to stretch the rectangle with "grips". This is not possible in one segment but! Why? Please Help. Greetings Martin Quote
JD Mather Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Shift select multiple grips or experiment with Coincident Constraints (and others like vertical, horizontal, perpendicular) on the Parameters tab. Quote
martinle Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Hello The commands on Parametric tab, I know. But I use the following procedure to stretch a rectangle: By holding down the "Ctrl" key, you can select a segment and then stretch with clicking on a corner the whole segement. In a segement but that does not work. As it reaches a vertex much further. Why? Greetings Martin Quote
eldon Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I am confused because you are holding down the "Ctrl" key. In my version that does not do anything. When you first click on a rectangle, all the grips are shown (in my case they are blue). To make a grip active you must click on it and it turns red. If you want more than one grip to be active, then you must hold down the "Shift" key as you click on them. Quote
martinle Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Hi Eldon! Exactly! Up to version 2009 or 2010 was also the way they show it. In 2012, ACAD is at 3 segments also. Only the fourth segement is not! In my example drawing the first point is at the bottom left to create the rectangle. Probably it has to do with the start and end points of the rectangle! Because depending on how I define the rectangle that segement is not this always the starting point! Greetings Martin Quote
eldon Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I am still confused as to your explanation, because my version does not behave like that. Quote
martinle Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Hi Eldon! When you ACAD is 2002. Is not that their version? In the meantime, the rectangles an additional handle with the "stretching" Add "vertex have indeed in the middle of each element" convert arc "". Greetings Martin Quote
eldon Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Perhaps you could post a screen shot to show the grips that you are talking about? Quote
steven-g Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 In order to stretch a side using grips you either have to select both corners using the shift key, or you can pick the centre grip. Quote
martinle Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Hi Steven G! Thank you for your help! I know how else I can stretch the rectangle. Just as I was Eldon could stretch all 4 sides with a vertex to ACAD vrsion 2010. This also works in ACAD 2012 but still only at three sites! The Fourth behaves in already shown above as in my screenshot. Maybe someone can test this in ACAD, 2012. Greetings Martin Quote
steven-g Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Ok it sounds a bit clearer now, can you post the drawing and someone can check if it is indeed your version or the drawing itself. Quote
martinle Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Hello Steven-g! The drawing is at the top of this annex. Greetings Martin Quote
steven-g Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 Martinle sorry for all the confusion. I tried everything and it worked as I would expect, !!!!! BUT THEN !!!!! can anyone else confirm this, and explain it, I even tried it on a new drawing, draw a simple rectangle, select it by just clicking on it and then using the shift key select all 3 grips on one vertex (ie. both corners and centre grip). And then by clicking on one of the corners try and stretch the rectangle? it works as expected on 3 sides on the fourth side it does not. Very wierd Quote
martinle Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Hi Steven-g! Exactly! You have understood me. Is this about a bug or is the intention of ACAD? Please Help. Greetings Martin Quote
steven-g Posted May 27, 2013 Posted May 27, 2013 I have to be honest, it isn't a method I would normally use to stretch a rectangle so I would never have spotted it, and I still don't fully understand your use of the Ctrl key, but it certainly looks like a bug, I can reproduce the 'error' in 2013 LT, we will just have to wait and see if anyone else can explain it. Quote
martinle Posted May 27, 2013 Author Posted May 27, 2013 Hi Steven-g! This type of stretching is very pleasant when you have very deep zoom into the map and stretch a detail (rectangle) you want without having to zoom back again. We will have to wait for a later version of ACAD. Or does anyone have an idea how to solve this. Would be a pity this function. Greetings Martin Quote
steven-g Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 Martin, It does't look as though anyone else has suggestions, if this is something that you think should be pursued further, then you can report it to Autodesk as a bug, and you may or may not get a response, but it is the proper method to follow. http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?id=1073063&siteID=123112 Quote
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