JD Mather Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Ouch! I don't see any solids? And random lines going to strange locations? Looks like extra work? What happens if you set your ltscale to 0.1 and regen? Shouldn't those be Hidden Linetype rather than center lines? You have lines over top of lines on various layers? Question - are you interested in step-by-step instructions on how to do this problem correctly (probably not the way you were instructed)? (Will not require any finger-crossing luck. Only logic will be used, and you will know it is correct.) Edited May 18, 2014 by JD Mather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) If you run the Overkill command on your drawing you will find that you have 33 duplicate lines and 7 overlapping lines. This is just plain sloppy work. There is no reason why you should be creating duplicate/overlapping lines unless you are still unfamiliar with some of the commands you are using. Hidden lines should be on their own layer and a "hidden" or "dashed" linetype should be used. I'm not entirely sure you know which lines should be displayed and which should be hidden. Why did you jump from 3D back into 2D? What's the point? Edited May 19, 2014 by ReMark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Remark, to my understanding it is 3D and not 2D. Maybe I'm wrong. it is my last drawing I've made no progress I keep coming up with duplicate lines Edited May 26, 2014 by Cad64 Posts merged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Remark, to my understanding it is 3D and not 2D. Maybe I'm wrong. it is my last drawing I see one region and a whole bunch of lines which give the appearance of a 3D drawing but it is more like a 3D isometric. I guess I was expecting to see the object constructed as a 3D solid like in JD Mather's previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I've made no progress I keep coming up with duplicate lines Yes, there are at least 33 duplicate lines if not more. Not sure how that happened. Can you explain what you did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Like I said in a previous post that I'm doing distance learning. I don't attend a class where I can ask questions. It's very difficult for me cause the manual does not cover everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Might I suggest that you erase what you have done and start over? Start by making the basic shapes that will be used to create your 3D solid. Once you have those shapes then use either the EXTRUDE or PRESSPULL commands. Remember though if you use EXTRUDE on a box created out of four separate lines you will end up with surfaces not a solid. Use EXTRUDE on profiles (your simple shapes) constructed out of a continuous polyline. On the other hand, PRESSPULL can be used on lines, arcs, polylines and splines and the end result will be a solid. Got that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yes I am aware that I have to use polyline to be able to extrude the problem I'm having is to trim on this particular drawing so what I'm doing is exploding it so I can trim but I'm still having no luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 You are having trouble trimming because some of your lines are non-coplanar. That is why I suggested you start over with the basic shapes. Look at the 3D model that JD Mather created. Can you envision that object as a series of individual solids ultimately joined together to form one object? Go look. I'll wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) So how do I fix the coplanar problem I seem to do fine on my other drawings when it comes to extrude and presspull Edited May 26, 2014 by Cad64 Posts merged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 You fix the problem by starting over. It would be in your best interest to do so given someone is not sitting by your side and guiding you step-by-step. Did you look at JD's 3D model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I seem to do fine on my other drawings when it comes to extrude and presspull Well something went terribly wrong somewhere along the line with this drawing. Even JD mentioned it earlier...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yes I had a look at JD drawing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Then let's start over with basic shapes shall we? Use the polyline command; it will make life easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 I started by the polyline command I drew a rectangle of 64 by 100. I then presspull to a height of 10. I used the copy edge command to create the cut out. And that's where I'm stuck cause I can't seem to trim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Two parts of the 3D object have openings in them so why start by creating a rectangular slab? You cannot use the TRIM command on a solid. You could use SLICE if you are familiar with that command. To "cut" a hole in the rectangle you could PRESSPULL a profile through it as one option or create another solid of the same shape and subtract it. How many basic shapes did you break down the 3D model into when you looked at JD's image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Look like 4 shapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 At a bare minimum I come up with five as one of them repeats. Creating the basic shapes then using either EXTRUDE or PRESSPULL would be a much easier process for someone new to AutoCAD don't you think? Do I need to demonstrate this to you? I think your problem is that you are trying to use some commands for editing solids and you have very little idea of how they work exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtie20 Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 Yes you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMark Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 How's this for starters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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