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    Quote Originally Posted by onkelbob View Post
    Yes this is fine but there are steel angles also used in steel design, they are also a pain to draw every time. I still would like to load my lisp program
    I am not sure how to add paths. or configure autocad in 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by onkelbob View Post
    Yes this is fine but there are steel angles also used in steel design, they are also a pain to draw every time. I still would like to load my lisp program
    You have only got to draw them once if you make them into a block!

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    I have been using the stl.lsp program for years and it works fine under 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2007, 2004....just about any version I've run in the past it works. You just need to make sure that all the files ( and there are at least a dozen or so of them in this package) are all in your Support path. It works great for me. I know the newer versions of ACAD come with a complete library of the AICS manual but this program which was written years ago is still one of my favorites.
    It's deja vu, all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevUK View Post
    You have only got to draw them once if you make them into a block!

    there are inch and half inch sizes of angles up to 12 inches. That means each angle size may have a many unequal legs and various leg (web) thicknesses. I have no idea how many different sizes that would be.I know also that I can make blocks that stretch, but that turns into a lot of work too. The lisp program is still the best solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onkelbob View Post
    there are inch and half inch sizes of angles up to 12 inches. That means each angle size may have a many unequal legs and various leg (web) thicknesses. I have no idea how many different sizes that would be.....
    To answer that question, there are 182 different L-Shapes in Al's Steel Mill just from 1/2" angle to 8" angle. But Steel Mill can generate an unlimited number of L-shapes because it has a feature that allows the the user to specify any flange thickness, and two flange lengths.... and that's just for L-Shapes. Additionally, dynamic blocks for steel cannot be "stretched" accurately as the fillets and radii on angles and beams are not proportional to either the thickness, or flange/web lengths. The only way a Dynamic block can accurately reflect a wide size range is via visibility states, or lookup tables. Furthermore, Steel Mill also generates any size or shape steel as a 3D Solid, or a Surface. IMO, the single advantage of using blocks for steel shapes is BOM.

    ... so onkelbob, did you get Steel Mill working?

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    For anybody looking for shapes that does not have Mechanical, you can find them here. I am in the process of exporting the entire steel shapes library and placing the content online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshBero View Post
    For anybody looking for shapes that does not have Mechanical, you can find them here. I am in the process of exporting the entire steel shapes library and placing the content online.
    Al's Steel Mill is a great add-on to vanilla AutoCAD and has been floating around for years.
    http://cadtips.cadalyst.com/standard...ypes-and-sizes

    Also, all Autodesk "vertical products" have an extensive steel library that comes standard, with great functionality since they are "AEC Objects".
    Tannar Z. Frampton ™ | Frampton & Associates, Inc.

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