srichang Posted November 9, 2011 Author Posted November 9, 2011 Did you even try the MACRO in the link ReMark posted? I agree with danellis, you are making this way too complicated, by isolating layers and doing everything one-by-one. its just so that i see where the problem lies...all the layers being on really confuses me....and my superior is very particular about things and wants everything perfect so dont want to risk it....its over now...the worst part is done.... Quote
srichang Posted November 9, 2011 Author Posted November 9, 2011 Did you even try the MACRO in the link ReMark posted? I agree with danellis, you are making this way too complicated, by isolating layers and doing everything one-by-one. i tried the lisp and it worked for most lines but not all....i did try the macro...it dint work...maybe i did something wrong??i dont know... Quote
DANIEL Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 Jack thats horrible that you had to fix all those drawings!!!!!its been a few days for me now...but luckily for me its just one file and today im almost done....What i dont understand is how does it happen in the first place....does anyone know why this happens and when you start your file afresh are there any values to enter to aviod this along with setting your units and limits is there some additional settings to be changed??i dont quiet understand how switching the UCS icon on avoids this problem? it boils down to someone along the way not paying attention to the drawings z values, most likely it starts from a survey drawing or other entity with 3d coordinates and then someone goes to use that with out realising it has 3d or z coordinate entities, once they've started snapping lines or what ever to them the drawing turns out all catywompus when you look at it from the side. a quick check is usually all that is needed to prevent this mess, look at it from a 3d iso view or what ever, if it has enrities with a z coordinate or 3d objects you'll see them and be able to flatten them or shoot views of them before starting and prevent things from getting any further out of hand Quote
Jack_O'neill Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 Jack thats horrible that you had to fix all those drawings!!!!!its been a few days for me now...but luckily for me its just one file and today im almost done....What i dont understand is how does it happen in the first place....does anyone know why this happens and when you start your file afresh are there any values to enter to aviod this along with setting your units and limits is there some additional settings to be changed??i dont quiet understand how switching the UCS icon on avoids this problem? It wasn't so bad...a little monotonous, but it all paid the same. Back then there was a lisp floating around called "smash" if I recall correctly. It did a pretty good job, and would get about 90% of the stuff. Anything it and flatten wouldn't fix, I generally would erase and draw a new one back where it went. I know how this set of drawings got screwed up. It took some digging, but I finally found the guy's master file, he'd done his best to hide it. It was pretty cool to look at. He had drawn everything where it would be in the actual airplane. He'd placed UCS's where ever he needed to draw a cross section or elevation, then drew it there. He then copied all these views out into separate files. Someone else would come along, grab something he'd done, paste it into their drawing, and it just stacked up from there. That guy had moved on about 3 months before I hired on and apparently no one knew that he'd done this. Quote
Patrick Hughes Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 i dont quiet understand how switching the UCS icon on avoids this problem? It does not prevent the problem. It provides the responsible drafter with a visual clue to where they are in the AutoCAD model space and allows them to take corrective action such as returning to the WCS when there is a change of appearance to the icon. There are many Autolisp programs out there that will make a change to the UCS and may leave it in a non-standard position when cancelled out of or when an error occurs. That is often where the trouble begins. Quote
Cad64 Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 I think most people are probably not aware of the OSNAPZ variable. Setting that variable to 1 can alleviate a lot of these problems from snapping to 3D endpoints on a survey. Quote
srichang Posted November 10, 2011 Author Posted November 10, 2011 I think most people are probably not aware of the OSNAPZ variable. Setting that variable to 1 can alleviate a lot of these problems from snapping to 3D endpoints on a survey. OK....before i do this, i just want to know what exactly it does? Quote
ReMark Posted November 10, 2011 Posted November 10, 2011 Your AutoCAD Help file will tell you all you need to know about OSNAPZ. Quote
srichang Posted November 16, 2011 Author Posted November 16, 2011 Your AutoCAD Help file will tell you all you need to know about OSNAPZ. ok...thank you!!! Quote
jflyer5 Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 I have had this problem and tracked it down to the customer titleblock we had to use. It had one line that was off 30" in the Z plane. Everytime a boarder was changed from paperspace to modelspace the titleblock would be off 30". We tend to draw everything in blocks and this was a MESS. Ended up finishing the drawing so the fabrication could begin before fixing the issue. Quote
tzframpton Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Best way to correct non-coplanar lines is to use this trick: Command: [b][color=red]MOVE[/color][/b] Select objects: [b][color=red]ALL[/color][/b] 19 found Select objects: Specify base point or [Displacement] <Displacement>: [color=red][b]0,0,0[/b][/color] Specify second point or <use first point as displacement>: [color=red][b]0,0,1e99[/b][/color] Command: [color=red][b]MOVE[/b][/color] Select objects: [color=red][b]P[/b][/color] 19 found Select objects: Specify base point or [Displacement] <Displacement>: [color=red][b]0,0,0[/b][/color] Specify second point or <use first point as displacement>: [color=red][b]0,0,-1e99[/b][/color] You can easily turn this into a script or even a really easy LISP routine. Quote
ReMark Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Covered in post #3 via the link I provided with the actual text for the macro and a name. Have another cup of coffee Tanner and then catch up with us. Come on now, we move kind of fast here even for old folks. GO GIANTS! Quote
tzframpton Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Whoops!! There I go not reading all the posts again. And man, WHAT. A. GAME. Hats off to the Giants hanging in there, making plays when it counted, and capitalizing on SF's mistakes. It's rematch time!! Quote
ReMark Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 I miss a few myself but that's usually before I have my ten cups of coffee. LOL Yes it was. Who knew they had it in them. The Giants were just about counted out when they had those four losses in a row. Well the Patriots will be out for blood this time. If they do take the lead then I would expect Brady to not let up one ounce. He'll not only want to beat the Giants he'll want to humiliate them as payback for the last time they met in a Superbowl. I'm praying for a good back and forth type game. I may have to take the next day off from work so I can stay up late enough to watch the game! Quote
tzframpton Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 I knew the Giants were gonna win. They're just too good overall, and they know how to make plays when it absolutely counts. Quote
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