Currahee Posted December 26, 2012 Author Posted December 26, 2012 I there with you, draw the 16 penny nails for the framing and dryway screws as well. On one job prior to my CAD days I was doing construction/building/carpenter/painter/elect/plumbing and all. We had one job to build a parts rooms in an auto repair shop, the designer using AutoCAD gave us a BOM and ordered the materials. Sad to say we had twice as many of these and only half of those to do the job. After that we told him to just tell what to build and we will get the materials. One of my pet peeves is when some one gives you a set of plans and they want the interior walls right at a set dimension, now every one knows that you need to keep the studs at 16" on center and you need to use an extra stud for corners, now if that set interior walls can be moved 1-3 inches one way or the other to keep from adding that extra stud for the corner I'll do it. Same for windows and doors I'll framed them to make best use of the 16" centers studs for my cripples. Then when you get into the sheets goods I could (at one time) argue roof pitches and soffit widths to save on materials a 4-12 pitch will use more than a 3-12 pitch but it may also waste more when you are working with 4x8 sheets. When I finished a job I wanted as less waste to haul off as possible. Sounds like you come from the old school of home builders like me!! I always put a double sill and a double jack so to make it easier to put in trim. A lot of framers avoid this to cut cost but when you custom build homes and you are the ones installing the dors and windows all these little blocks of wood pays off. For instance framing all your walls horizontally with 2x12's at picture level before rocking it, that way the home owner never has an issue with placing a nail. Quote
BIGAL Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Understood it takes a few minutes to create have a look. Quote
Currahee Posted December 26, 2012 Author Posted December 26, 2012 Understood it takes a few minutes to create have a look. [ATTACH=CONFIG]39382[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]39383[/ATTACH] Yea....one block at a time thats what I am going for!!! But I am just going to put block as my foundation and put lap 8" cedar siding on the outside. But............................................................you did it the easy way by extruding the block...I am talking place one block at a time just like a mason would...LOL Quote
Dadgad Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Yea....one block at a time thats what I am going for!!! But I am just going to put block as my foundation and put lap 8" cedar siding on the outside. But............................................................you did it the easy way by extruding the block...I am talking place one block at a time just like a mason would...LOL That's clearly the only way to go, the name of the game. Would it be cheating to use a 3D ARRAY of individual blocks? I miss installing beautiful clear tapered redwood ship lap siding. No such animal in this neck of the archipelagic woods. Lots of really beautiful tropical hardwoods though. Quote
Currahee Posted December 26, 2012 Author Posted December 26, 2012 That's clearly the only way to go, the name of the game.Would it be cheating to use a 3D ARRAY of individual blocks? I miss installing beautiful clear tapered redwood ship lap siding. No such animal in this neck of the archipelagic woods. Lots of really beautiful tropical hardwoods though. Dang Dad...we must be long lost brothers....we think alike!!!! And yes it would be cheating...LOL Quote
Murph_map Posted December 26, 2012 Posted December 26, 2012 Sounds like you come from the old school of home builders like me!! I always put a double sill and a double jack so to make it easier to put in trim. A lot of framers avoid this to cut cost but when you custom build homes and you are the ones installing the dors and windows all these little blocks of wood pays off. For instance framing all your walls horizontally with 2x12's at picture level before rocking it, that way the home owner never has an issue with placing a nail. I think I was carrying 2x4 for my father when I was about 10 years old. Also adding an extra block on the side of those window studs for the home owner to anchor the curtain rods to. Quote
f700es Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 SketchUp and the House Builder plugin would be your friend in this task http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodnews/2009november/sketchup.html Quote
Dadgad Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 SketchUp and the House Builder plugin would be your friend in this task http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/woodnews/2009november/sketchup.html Nice looking plugins, really getting my woodworking jones fired up here. Quote
BIGAL Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Have a look at this started with studs it can be done draw a 2x4 then extrude it the height of the wall minus bot & top plate copy these as required Bot plate draw say 6' and 4" wide extrude 2" this you can now copy rotate and drag an "end grip" to be the length required. You may need to move stuff in 3d a simple move obj 0,0,0 0,0,2 lifts 2" Quote
pendean Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 REVIT, not AutoCAD or ARCH or INVENTOR, would be the better place to start this excercise. Quote
f700es Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Nice looking plugins, really getting my woodworking jones fired up here. Getting started, I am sure I have some issues to fix but so far ... Quote
ReMark Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 You may want to rethink the framing for your gable ends. Quote
f700es Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 You may want to rethink the framing for your gable ends. I said it has some issues to fix!!!!! Quote
ReMark Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 No need to shout. I'm standing on the ladder next to you! LoL Quote
BIGAL Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Dont argue with the man with the nail gun in his hand ! Quote
Bill Tillman Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 I think someone called this a nobel idea. Indeed it is, but take it from someone who has tried this. It becomes such a burden on the computer's performance and file size that it's just not worth it. There are other ways of modeling a structure, residential, commercial, whatever. And this method of modeling each component is not efficient as you'd think...or accurate, especially since what the carpenters in the field actually assemble can sometimes vary greatly from what is designed. Quote
Ski_Me Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Like somebody said before Revit. Forget this one block at a time we did that when we used to draw when pen and paper. Why the hell would I want to go back to the stone age? Cause I'm old and think I know better? No. I refuse to use old materials and old technics because I didn't learn anything new. I know I can build a better building by using new material and better methods. Quote
JD Mather Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I am remodeling my house and drawing it up as I go (in Inventor because that is what I know best). Tools like Frame Generator make it easy to model every framing member. All the standard sizes of building components in my library. Haven't bothered to do a rough calculations of how many total parts (and no, I'm not modeling every nail and screw - but most everything else - including the organic stuff like tub and sink). I think it is fun to have "xray vision" into the walls (especially when considering some of the unacceptable work I found behind the drywall during demolition). I'm hoping that the next buyer appreciates the value of having the digital model when I retire and move south. I've got about 11 years to finish up this project. BTW - just modeling this up and showing to my wife in advance has saved me a lot of money (and arguments). Quote
ReMark Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 When I renovated the pantry in our 104 y.o. house I modeled it first in 3D to show my wife what I planned on doing. She was impressed. However, her only question was "Are you going to build it that way?" LoL Quote
f700es Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Well I think most are missing the point of this. You would not do this every time you drew a house/building but maybe do it for marketing material like in the builders showroom or on a website. Little projects like JD and Remark spoke of are other good examples as well. Quote
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