AutoCAD Educational Stamp

[f700es]

Who is falling on the sword for Autodesk.

A disgruntled employee who is after nothing more than to stir up trouble for a former employer? Not everyone (except for the lawyers) is in the fight for the money. Make an (valid) accusation and be on your way. The lawyers will be happy to take it from there.

 

Why risk my job to turn in a company that is in a joint venture with my employer? I think your example would be by a former employee with an axe to grind against former company.

[nestly]

One could stolen while the other not stolen and used against it's intended purpose (non commercial use) it could be a paid edu license.

 

Refresh my memory, How much does and EDU license cost?

 

Whether you break a window and steal a car off the street, or rent/borrow a car and never bring it back, it's still a stolen car.

 

I can agree with not risking your own neck if your employer doesn't care, but using EDU software for commercial purposes is without any doubt piracy/theft.

[f700es]

Unless things have changed there was a free edu license and a pay edu license. Could be different now.

We are getting into samantics so I will stop as to not get into a useless, endless debate.

Downloading a warez copy or using a crack to authorize a copy seems different to using a student copy on a commercial job. Yes both are wrong.

I am done.

[nestly]

For clarification the software is identical whether it's identified as Commercial, Educational, NFR (not for resale) or Cracked.

 

"Cracking" is the process of generating a product key/activation code instead of obtaining it from the software vendor.

[RobDraw]

What you all do if you were given the choice of working on a file with an EDU stamp or losing your job?

[Organic]

What you all do if you were given the choice of working on a file with an EDU stamp or losing your job?

 

Simple, you work on the file. Anyone who says otherwise would be "silly".

Edited November 8, 2013 by f700es

[ReMark]

Work on the file but before doing so let the boss know what the potential consequences could be by using such content. Then I'd finish the job and anonymously report the infraction to AutoDesk. Let the chips fall where they may. At least if I were to be fired I'd have a very interesting story to tell down at the unemployment office.

[RobDraw]

I am not an idiot or silly.

Edited November 8, 2013 by RobDraw

[Murph_map]

Work on the file but before doing so let the boss know what the potential consequences could be by using such content. Then I'd finish the job and anonymously report the infraction to AutoDesk. Let the chips fall where they may. At least if I were to be fired I'd have a very interesting story to tell down at the unemployment office.

 

Agree 100%, unless I didn't need the job then report it.

[nestly]

What you all do if you were given the choice of working on a file with an EDU stamp or losing your job?

 

I've never worked for anyone that would force me to do something illegal.

[ReMark]

Fortunately I would never face that kind of situation in my current job because all CAD drawings we get from outside sources have to come directly through me. If I did receive one with an EDU stamp on it I would contact the sender and tell them nice try but we do not accept those types of drawings and to do something about it on their end. Put the onus where it belongs. If they don't like that then they would be free to call my boss. As a former Naval officer I think his moral values would become immediately apparent and the outside contractor would get the message loud and clear.

[Organic]

Work on the file but before doing so let the boss know what the potential consequences could be by using such content. Then I'd finish the job and anonymously report the infraction to AutoDesk. Let the chips fall where they may. At least if I were to be fired I'd have a very interesting story to tell down at the unemployment office.

 

Unemployed is unemployed, regardless of whether you have an interesting story.

 

I am not an idiot.

 

So you'd rather be unemployed and potentially lose your home and family etc while Autodesk continues to profit? Are you serious?

[Organic]

I've never worked for anyone that would force me to do something illegal.

 

Nor have I although engineering involves a lot of ethics and sometimes what is best for the client is not always best for other stakeholders (third parties etc).

[Organic]

Fortunately I would never face that kind of situation in my current job because all CAD drawings we get from outside sources have to come directly through me. If I did receive one with an EDU stamp on it I would contact the sender and tell them nice try but we do not accept those types of drawings and to do something about it on their end. Put the onus where it belongs. If they don't like that then they would be free to call my boss. As a former Naval officer I think his moral values would become immediately apparent and the outside contractor would get the message loud and clear.

 

The client will either go elsewhere and/or tell your boss that you are incompetent, go on a rant about you and the company and then your boss will order you to please the client and do what is required. Unless the client is a small fry that won't impact the business, then the boss may back you.

[RobDraw]

Unemployed is unemployed, regardless of whether you have an interesting story.

 

 

 

So you'd rather be unemployed and potentially lose your home and family etc while Autodesk continues to profit? Are you serious?

 

I would much rather keep my piece of mind than work for any employer that would break the law for a buck. There is no potential of losing my home or family. Neither of those is contingent on keeping my job.

[ReMark]

Unemployed is unemployed, regardless of whether you have an interesting story.

 

 

 

So you'd rather be unemployed and potentially lose your home and family etc while Autodesk continues to profit? Are you serious?

 

I'll assume you've never been unemployed.

 

Your employer can fire you and you can either collect unemployment or it can be denied. If you are denied you have a legal right to a hearing where you can argue your case. When they hear that you were fired because you were required to do something that was illegal it would make for a very interesting conversation don't you think? As the CEO of a company that forced an employee to do something illegal how would YOU justify that? Your witness.

[ReMark]

The client will either go elsewhere and/or tell your boss that you are incompetent, go on a rant about you and the company and then your boss will order you to please the client and do what is required. Unless the client is a small fry that won't impact the business, then the boss may back you.

 

Sounds like you've had a real crappy relationship with many of your former bosses. I can say with 100% certainty my boss would back me.

[nestly]

The client will either go elsewhere and/or tell your boss that you are incompetent, go on a rant about you and the company and then your boss will order you to please the client and do what is required. Unless the client is a small fry that won't impact the business, then the boss may back you.

 

I think you have that completely backward... The person/client illegally using EDU software in not the one in a position of power. If they attempted to berate me or my employees or try to back-out of their contractual obligation, I'd immediately be on the anti-piracy hotline.

[Organic]

I'll assume you've never been unemployed.

 

Your employer can fire you and you can either collect unemployment or it can be denied. If you are denied you have a legal right to a hearing where you can argue your case. When they hear that you were fired because you were required to do something that was illegal it would make for a very interesting conversation don't you think? As the CEO of a company that forced an employee to do something illegal how would YOU justify that? Your witness.

 

I've never been unemployed in the US although where I live similar laws exist. No employer is going to admit they fired you for that reason though, instead you will be made redundant due to operational requirements etc...

 

Sounds like you've had a real crappy relationship with many of your former bosses. I can say with 100% certainty my boss would back me.

 

Most of my previous employers would have told me to jsut do what was requried to get the job done...

[RobDraw]

Simple, you work on the file. Anyone who says otherwise would be an idiot.

 

To each his own but there is absolutely no need for name calling. I asked you in private to recant your statement because I had already stated that I would rather leave my job than work in that type of file but you refused.