Vehicle Tracking - where to find details for vehicles

[Adam - Inspire]

Hi I have been using Vehicle Tracking for a while now and often adjust of create custom vehicle but was interested to know if anyone has come across a source for vehicle details for swept paths? 

 

Adam

[BIGAL]

You have to go on the manufactures web site and often values are not there, like max steer angle, can normally get wheel base info. Even these can be modelled.

 

[tombu]

Not an exact science Vehicle Tracking is an educated guess.

Max steer angle and wheelbase are the biggest factors but while many vehicles look similar steer angle varies a lot by use model and manufacturer.

For a particular vehicle we're gone so far as to have the vehicle needing access do the turns on dirt and locate the tracks with a survey crew.

Generally though for approving plans we call for standard vehicles according to use like any commercial business with a dumpster has to be designed for pickup access.

[BIGAL]

Like Tombu the guys where I used to work got the crayon out and marked the ground as the truck turned and surveyed it. For a fire truck had the specs but no vehicle found a European truck so close used that I think we just tweaked a couple of the values. 

 

My Nissan civilian motor home 6m long does a u turn better than my car.

 

We had a planning submission for the best semi driver in the world to carry out a manoeuvre we deduced the turn angles had been adjusted so as to make it work asked consultant in no un certain terms "HAVE A NOTHER GO" no cheating.

Edited April 6, 2022 by BIGAL

[SLW210]

I use the one in CadTools, the defaults have worked for me, but you can customize the vehicles.

 

I just did a turnaround area a couple of weeks ago, I'll have to see how well I did when they finish making it. 

 

So far, all of the paths I made have worked easily. 

 

I double checked some of the information on trucking forums and manufacturer sites and the information with CadTools seems pretty accurate.

 

I asked my boss if we could access a tractor and trailer to check, but no dice.

[BIGAL]

Yes have met Bus company on site to discuss parking arrangements, was very helpful. Another problem was bus turning in suburban street, bus had no problems but realised it was the drivers not taking their time turning so we changed the corner anyway with new kerbs. 

[Steven P]

Going to resurrect an old thread.... Going to have to do some vehicle tracking this week or next, articulated lorry but extended trailer. I have a PDF of the dimensions.

 

Is there an easy to follow guide out there that shows what values to put where to convert a CAD drawing into a vehicle tracked vehicle? Thanks (My first attempts this morning had the trailer pointing out the front, cutting the driver in half). I guess I can work it out trial and error but jumping that part.

 

 

 

 

And second question which is my default model for new tools, does anyone have an x wing fighter modelled as a 'vehicle'? That might be a weekend thing.

 

 

Thanks

[BIGAL]

Many years ago now I think it was "Autoturn" it popped up a dcl/picture that you put all the values into, so just found one close first and printed it, that gave what values went where. Was it also "Vehicle tracking" by Autodesk ?

Edited February 19 by BIGAL

[SLW210]

I use the one in CadTools and it has window that opens and you can adjust the parameters and create a custom vehicle.

 

 

[Steven P]

12 hours ago, BIGAL said:

Many years ago now I think it was "Autoturn" it popped up a dcl/picture that you put all the values into, so just found one close first and printed it, that gave what values went where. Was it also "Vehicle tracking" by Autodesk ?

 

Thanks BigAl, I was mistaken yesterday, thought AutoTurn had been taken on by AutoCAD so didn't look more into it... but it is a 3rd party add on - looks good and a minimal cost... but for this not sure 'IT' would let me have it... but I'll put in a request... you never know and always good to have new toys to play with

 

[Steven P]

28 minutes ago, SLW210 said:

I use the one in CadTools and it has window that opens and you can adjust the parameters and create a custom vehicle.

 

 

 

Thanks, looked at this before but CADtools are a special request for us, probably needs signing off by some deity or other

[BIGAL]

I think Vehicle tracking was part of the CIV3D bundle so was included could be wrong.

[Steven P]

Yes, got vehicle tracking as Civ3D - AutoTurn is a separate thing as far as I can tell

 

 

Never got chance to look at it properly last week, will see how east the vehicle tracking is to use once I get into it

[tombu]

Lot of useful tutorials for Vehicle Tracking on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=autodesk+vehicle+tracking

Used it a lot before I retired. For commercial projects besides entrances access to dumpsters and delivery locations was important. Curves in access roads need to be checked for the longest vehicles that uses them as parts of the vehicle shift inside.

[Steven P]

Thanks Tombu, played a little this morning and demolished some of a virtual London, not the software, my driving skills... but your links look handy

[BIGAL]

Just remember with say a semi you have to turn outward before turning in the direction you want for tight corners, same with exit oversteer corner. It normally took say 3+ goes to get a smooth path. Followed a road train go through multiple roundabouts in Darwin, a road train is 3 x 19m trailers 66 ton. The driver would go left and right crossing 3 lanes but did not go slow,

 

What was that bump ?

[tombu]

3 hours ago, Steven P said:

Thanks Tombu, played a little this morning and demolished some of a virtual London, not the software, my driving skills... but your links look handy

We used AutoTurn by Transoft for years as an AutoCAD plugin years before Vehicle Tracking or even Civil 2D was added to AutoCAD. It was a company in England at the time but it's worldwide now and no longer a simple AutoCAD plugin!

[Steven P]

Took the day yesterday to work through the examples, youtube and so on, a bit of trial and error and kid of got it working. Just need to practice more - it wasn't as bad as it looked at first

 

 

 

Driving however is another thing. Still crashing into things.

[BIGAL]

Like a lot here just remember teaching your children how to drive, no did not crash into things, but went around a roundabout, hands everywhere trying to turn, change gears and me praying as we chugged out.

[BIGAL]

Have a go at adding this vehicle, they are daunting when you meet them on the road. Let alone the 3 x 19m petrol tankers.

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by BIGAL